NFL Playoffs?, Playoffs?!?!(that's not a catch, that's a catch)

[MadBurgerMaker]

This is not true.  I thought maybe I had been spacing out on the rule, so I googled.

"However, if the team that receives the opening kickoff only gets a field goal, the other team gets one possession of its own. If they score a touchdown, they win. If they don't score, they lose. If they also kick a field goal, the overtime continues in sudden-death format."  From SB*Nation.

Mer?  I'm not sure how that says what you quoted from me is not true.

Here is a thing from NFL.com:

Following a three-minute intermission after the end of the regulation game, play will be continued in 15-minute periods until a winner is declared. Each team must possess or have the opportunity to possess the ball unless the team that has the ball first scores a touchdown on its initial possession. Play continues in sudden death until a winner is determined, and the game automatically ends upon any score (by safety, field goal, or touchdown) or when a score is awarded by the Referee for a palpably unfair act. Each team has three time-outs per half and all general timing provisions apply as during a regular game. The try is not attempted if a touchdown is scored. Disqualified players are not allowed to return.

Team A doesnt do anything but punt = possession (opportunity to possess = muffing the kickoff or something hilarious like that).   Team B can now go kick a FG and get that sweet sweet W.

[Admiral Yi]

Mer?  I'm not sure how that says what you quoted from me is not true.

Because there are other cases besides the first team scoring a TD that they get more than one possession.

[MadBurgerMaker]

Because there are other cases besides the first team scoring a TD that they get more than one possession.

Well, there are punts and turnovers by Team B, but if A doesn't score with their possession and B does, the game is over.  The thing from SB Nation says the same thing I did.  They each get a possession unless there is a TD scored on the opening drive. 

E:  Safeties are instawins too, in case you were curious.  As I said before a kickoff is also an opportunity to possess for the receiving team, so Team A can win with a FG on their opening possession with a muff or an onside kick on the following KO.  Team B can elect to kick on the coin flip like the Patriots here, recover an onside kick, and make a FG to win it immediately too. That would take some balls of steel though, considering the field position they would be giving up if they aren't successful.

[Admiral Yi]

Look Burger, we're having a debate about whether "they get one possession" means they get at least one possession or they get only one possession.  When I first read your post i thought you meant the second and I see now that you meant the first.

[MadBurgerMaker]

Ah, I see.  Why didn't you mention sudden death then?     I just didn't think that part of the rules, which is the same as always after the new stuff gets taken care of, needed to be spelled out since we're talking about kicking FGs to win it/why it isn't necessarily a bad thing to kick after the coin flip. vOv

E:  Then again, it gave me something to do for the last 20 minutes I'm here at work, so woooooooooo Im outta here thanks for talking past each other with me Yi, and happy new year! 

[Admiral Yi]

Why didn't I mention sudden death when?

[MadBurgerMaker]

Why didn't I mention sudden death when?

When you quoted the post you thought was not true.     "That's not true, they still get sudden death" or some such.   Then I would have gone "Oh derp, I meant GUARANTEED possessions" or some such and we would have been slightly more bored for the last few minutes.

[Admiral Yi]

I didn't want to make you look like a derplord.  Or more of a derplord.

[MadBurgerMaker]

The Texans will make the playoffs unless the following occurs:

Broncos beat the Bengals
Colts beat the Titans
Steelers beat the Browns
Broncos beat the Chargers
Falcons beat the Saints
Bills beat the Jets
Jaguars beat the Texans
Dolphins beat the Patriots
Ravens beat the Bengals
Raiders beat the Chiefs

So what I'm saying is: The Colts are going to the playoffs because that's the kind of shit that happens to Houston football teams.

I didn't want to make you look like a derplord.  Or more of a derplord.

Alternatively, you could have figured out why a team would be playing 4 down ball in your own scenario and avoided the whole thing entirely.     It doesn't really matter either way.

[sbr]

The key part is that the patriots didn't necessarily want to kick off, they wanted to choose which goal they defended.

That almost always means they will end up kicking off, but that would have been by default.

[MadBurgerMaker]

The key part is that the patriots didn't necessarily want to kick off, they wanted to choose which goal they defended.

That almost always means they will end up kicking off, but that would have been by default.

I think he might have even said something about wanting to go a certain way after he said they want to kick immediately after the coin flip and before the ref had the Jets pick where they want to receive, but welp he didn't choose to defer.

[dps]

The key is that the Patriots wanted to play defense first, and got what they wanted.  It didn't work out for them, but it was their choice.

[Valmy]

The key is that the Patriots wanted to play defense first, and got what they wanted.  It didn't work out for them, but it was their choice.

They supposedly tried this trick before and it worked.

[alfred russel]

The key part is that the patriots didn't necessarily want to kick off, they wanted to choose which goal they defended.

That almost always means they will end up kicking off, but that would have been by default.

Actually, Belichick came out and said they didn't care which direction they went because there was almost no wind, they wanted to kick off. He told his captain to choose to kick off, and told the ref before the play he wanted to kick off. What he didn't want is to pick a goal to defend and then have the Jets choose to kick off because he didn't want to receive the football.

[Valmy]

Now that the Slurs are sitting pretty going to the playoffs I am terrified they get the fucking Seahawks again. Thank goodness they lost to the Rams, it gives me some hope.