Climate Change/Mass Extinction Megathread

Started by Syt, November 17, 2015, 05:50:30 AM

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Oexmelin

Quote from: derspiess on August 02, 2018, 11:54:38 AM
So capitalism will successfully conquer climate change?  :P

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derspiess

I don't, really.  But what he did was a pretty incredible feat.
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Oexmelin

What I meant is that, continuing your analogy of capitalism conquering climate change, it may indeed turn out to be true, but when, and at what cost? The people championing waiting for capitalism to conquer climate change are usually those who imagine themselves as the winner of the process (Cortez), and not as those who lost their lives, or became miserable because of it - people who think they will not have to suffer during a process that promises to be full of sufferings and upheavals. 
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The Minsky Moment

Quote from: derspiess on August 02, 2018, 11:54:38 AM
So capitalism will successfully conquer climate change?  :P

No doubt it could, that's certainly a solid Marxist thesis.

Sure we might lose a bunch of coastal cities, cost liives, reduce the value of trillions of investment. But capitalism can keep rolling through all that, adjusting to the changes in marginal schedules of production and cost as it goes. Whether you find that reassuring is another question.
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Razgovory

Quote from: derspiess on August 02, 2018, 02:36:31 PM
I don't, really.  But what he did was a pretty incredible feat.


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Eddie Teach

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mongers

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Razgovory

I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

crazy canuck

The main river that runs through this area is warming.  In the past it reached temperatures in that stressed the salmon swimming up river, on average, two days a year.  But over the last eight years it has was that warm for 22 days.  There is a concern that the run this year could be severely reduced because of continued warming this year.

The significance of that? "In the four-year life cycle of a Fraser River sockeye, 2018 is supposed to be one of the big years — where the river runs red with millions of fish."  If this run declines the viability of salmon in this area is questionable. 

  https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/sockeye-salmon-water-temperature-1.4771607

Monoriu

Quote from: crazy canuck on August 04, 2018, 07:50:47 AM
The main river that runs through this area is warming.  In the past it reached temperatures in that stressed the salmon swimming up river, on average, two days a year.  But over the last eight years it has was that warm for 22 days.  There is a concern that the run this year could be severely reduced because of continued warming this year.

The significance of that? "In the four-year life cycle of a Fraser River sockeye, 2018 is supposed to be one of the big years — where the river runs red with millions of fish."  If this run declines the viability of salmon in this area is questionable. 

  https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/sockeye-salmon-water-temperature-1.4771607

Scottish salmon is much better than Canadian ones  ;)

Syt

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Berkut

Quote from: Ed Anger on March 15, 2018, 07:50:45 PM
The University of Dayton is installing 4,000 solar panels...to provide 2% their power. Sigh.

4000 10' square panels? Or 4000 1" square panels?

The raw number of panels doesn't really mean much of anything.
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