BBC: Holocaust historians condemn Austria jailing of Jewish writer

Started by Martinus, October 23, 2015, 05:48:36 PM

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Syriza is more talk than anything else, FPÖ was only in power with a coalition so colour me skeptical. Trump won't be in power, hopefully.
The French situation is peculiar, other countries have implemented reforms, e.g Portugal but Flanby's France does nothing.

Solmyr

Quote from: The Brain on October 24, 2015, 03:10:40 AM
Like in Sweden. The Sweden Democrats are pretty much the only opposition party (and the past 10 months this was even officially the case since the flaming faggots in the "non"-Socialist parties had a deal with the Communist-backed government that let it do whatever the fuck it wanted even when it didn't actually have the votes). Small wonder SD gets like 20% in the polls.

Same with Finland's True Finns party. They had high ratings while they were in opposition the last four years. Now they've been included in the new government and their ratings tanked. So there's your solution. :D

Zanza

Quote from: Martinus on October 24, 2015, 06:08:39 AM
hence a growing convergence of mainstream parties into a sort of Blairite third way, differing in only minor, secondary aspects when it comes to their programmes.
And the perfect embodiment of that is Angela Merkel which also explains why she is still so popular in Germany.

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I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

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Yeah.  Mao doubled down on the Three-Anti campaign with the Five-Anti campaign the very next year.  If he can do it, anyone can.
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mongers

Quote from: Razgovory on October 25, 2015, 06:30:18 AM
I get confused after three antis.

OK, I'll adopt a new debate tactic with you, hence forth I shall 'up the antis'. :menace:
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In other news: http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/d1eaf34e-7810-11e5-933d-efcdc3c11c89.html#axzz3paMB6kAQ

QuoteNazi claims spur fight between Vienna and Krakow over Bruegel



A masterpiece by Renaissance artist Pieter Bruegel the Elder depicting a medieval festival celebrating the clash of seasons has become the latest painting to spark an ownership tussle, after allegations that the work was looted by the Nazis from Poland during the second world war.

Seventy-year-old documents unearthed in the archives of Krakow's National Museum allege that The Fight Between Carnival and Lent, painted in 1559 and thought to be worth tens of millions of pounds, was taken by the wife of the city's Nazi governor in 1939 during the occupation of Poland.

The work, which today hangs in the Kunsthistorisches Museum in Vienna, is expected to become the subject of an administrative battle between officials in the two cities in an attempt to prove its provenance. The tussle comes amid a wider push by Polish authorities to track down artworks and valuables looted during the occupation.

"It is impossible to overstate the importance of this painting," said Meredith Hale, a fellow in Netherlandish art at Cambridge university. "If it was taken unlawfully from Krakow to Vienna it would be a huge story for the art world — as big as it gets."

Art experts estimate that the painting could be valued at well in excess of £50m, with only one of the Dutch artist's works in private hands.

The Kunsthistorisches Museum insists that the painting has been owned by the gallery since the 17th century. It believes the work that was taken from Krakow by Charlotte von Wächter, wife of Otto von Wächter, governor-general of Krakow from 1939 to 1942, is not the same painting.

Poland will ask Austrian authorities for a full investigation into the painting to determine whether or not it once hung in Krakow's museum, the country's deputy minister of culture told Rzeczpospolita, the Polish newspaper which first reported the existence of the archive documents.

According to a research paper by Diana Blonska, director of the Krakow museum, documents in its archive state that Wächter's wife visited the museum in 1939 and took the painting together with others, many of which "ended up in the antique markets of Vienna".

Ms Blonska cited a letter written in March 1946 by Feliks Kopera, the then-director of the museum, to Krakow's city authorities. It reads: "The Museum suffered major, irretrievable losses at the hands of the wife of the governor of the Kraków Distrikt, Frau Wächter, a Viennese woman aged about 35 . . . Items that went missing included paintings such as: Breughel's The Fight Between Lent and Carnival."

In a second letter cited by Ms Blonska, Mr Kopera reports the thefts to the government department in postwar Poland responsible for drawing up lists of war criminals.

Ms Blonska could not be reached for comment.

Philippe Sands, a law professor at University College London, whose articles in the Financial Times exploring the Wächter family and his film My Nazi Legacy inspired Polish journalists to investigate the painting, said the evidence suggested an investigation was needed.

"There is evidence to suggest wrongdoing on a serious scale, and a pressing need to fully investigate the provenance of the Bruegel painting . . . including whether it was taken from the National Museum in Krakow," he said.

Hundreds of thousands of pieces of art were either stolen or acquired through forced sales by the Nazis during the second world war, typically by organisations set up solely to select and then plunder valuable works. Poland estimates that more than €20bn of art and other treasures were taken from its galleries and private collections during the war.
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