China to invest $78 bn to build 110 nuclear power plants by 2030

Started by jimmy olsen, October 18, 2015, 08:26:37 AM

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jimmy olsen

Excellent news. :)


http://www.firstpost.com/world/china-to-invest-78-bn-to-build-110-nuclear-power-plants-by-2030-will-overtake-us-2471414.html
QuoteChina to invest $78 bn to build 110 nuclear power plants by 2030, will overtake US
Oct 16, 2015 15:54 IST

Beijing: China plans to build 110 nuclear power plants by 2030 with an investment of over $78 billion overtaking the US which has 100 such plants amid criticism that Beijing is yet to implement enough measures to develop safety controls in existing projects.

China will build six to eight nuclear power plants annually for the next five years and operate 110 plants by 2030 to meet the urgent need for clean energy, Beijing-based China Times quoted plan analysts as saying.

China will invest 500 billion yuan ($78.8 billion) on domestically developed nuclear power plants, the report said.

According to the China Times, the country plans to increase its electricity generation capacity to 58 gigawatts by 2020, three times the 2014 level.

More than 110 nuclear power plants will be put into operation by the end of 2030, exceeding the number of plants in the US.

China currently has 23 nuclear power generating units in operation and 27 under construction, about one-third of the world's unfinished nuclear units.

The construction resumed after the Chinese government which put the brakes on nuclear power plant approvals after the Fukushima nuclear accident in Japan in 2011 permitted their construction after a safety review.

The urgent need for clean energy to meet increasing power demand and reduce carbon dioxide emissions has led to the renewed development of nuclear projects, a nuclear safety expert at an energy cooperation firm in Beijing told Global Times.

He Zuoxiu, a theoretical physicist at the Chinese Academy of Sciences, told the same daily that China has yet to implement enough measures to develop safety control technology and facilities for nuclear power plants.

He said four countries - the US, Japan, France and the former Soviet Union - which have more than 50 nuclear power plants, suffered from nuclear accidents.

He said the government should attach greater importance to other clean energy resources such as wind and hydroelectric power, which are abundant in China, instead of building too many nuclear power plants.

Zhou Dadi, vice director of the China Energy Research Society said that China generates only about 2 per cent of its total electricity from nuclear power plants, while the average global proportion is 14 per cent, adding that China is in a great position to develop its nuclear projects.

He added that using nuclear power could also make China less dependent on imported energy such as gas and oil though safety concerns should not stunt the industry.

"Due to China's mature nuclear technology and strict safety controls, serious accidents are unlikely to happen," Zhou said.

China is also aggressively marketing its new 1100 MW nuclear technology abroad. Pakistan and Argentina have already opted for it.

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sbr

I don't think Chinese quality nuclear anything is excellent news.

The Brain

Relax. It will never kill anywhere near as many people as Chinese hydro.
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sbr

A Chinese dam bursting has little potential effect on me, outside of higher rice prices maybe.  110 Chinese reactors failing due to cheap plastic parts has the real possibility to fuck my shit up.

Josquius

In most other countries  yes, excellent news.
But yeah. Chinese safety standards leave much to be desired
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The Brain

Quote from: sbr on October 18, 2015, 11:54:50 AM
A Chinese dam bursting has little potential effect on me, outside of higher rice prices maybe.  110 Chinese reactors failing due to cheap plastic parts has the real possibility to fuck my shit up.

Like the US reactor that failed?
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Quote from: The Brain on October 18, 2015, 12:09:02 PM
Quote from: sbr on October 18, 2015, 11:54:50 AM
A Chinese dam bursting has little potential effect on me, outside of higher rice prices maybe.  110 Chinese reactors failing due to cheap plastic parts has the real possibility to fuck my shit up.

Like the US reactor that failed?



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On the plus side, once China irradiates itself the west will be off the hook for all the money we owe it.
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Quote from: The Brain on October 18, 2015, 12:09:02 PM
Quote from: sbr on October 18, 2015, 11:54:50 AM
A Chinese dam bursting has little potential effect on me, outside of higher rice prices maybe.  110 Chinese reactors failing due to cheap plastic parts has the real possibility to fuck my shit up.

Like the US reactor that failed?

I'm not sure TMI is the best example of a worst-case reactor failure.
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Monoriu

I for one welcome this.  There is a nuclear power plant that is like 50 miles away from Hong Kong, and it was built in the 80s.  Pretty sure some of the electricity that I use comes from there.  I don't think there is much choice.  The air quality in China is so bad that it is a much bigger risk to health than the risk associated with nuclear reactors.  Solar and wind are not economical, and they have already built hydro power in most places where those can be built.  See Three Gorges Dam. 

jimmy olsen

Quote from: Monoriu on October 18, 2015, 08:34:59 PM
I for one welcome this.  There is a nuclear power plant that is like 50 miles away from Hong Kong, and it was built in the 80s.  Pretty sure some of the electricity that I use comes from there.  I don't think there is much choice.  The air quality in China is so bad that it is a much bigger risk to health than the risk associated with nuclear reactors.  Solar and wind are not economical, and they have already built hydro power in most places where those can be built.  See Three Gorges Dam.

Says who? The price has come down drastically in the last ten years.
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Jaron

Quote from: jimmy olsen on October 18, 2015, 10:14:49 PM
Quote from: Monoriu on October 18, 2015, 08:34:59 PM
I for one welcome this.  There is a nuclear power plant that is like 50 miles away from Hong Kong, and it was built in the 80s.  Pretty sure some of the electricity that I use comes from there.  I don't think there is much choice.  The air quality in China is so bad that it is a much bigger risk to health than the risk associated with nuclear reactors.  Solar and wind are not economical, and they have already built hydro power in most places where those can be built.  See Three Gorges Dam.

Says who? The price has come down drastically in the last ten years.

You'd think with China's vast wind swept deserts that there'd be a ripe market for wind power.
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Monoriu

Quote from: jimmy olsen on October 18, 2015, 10:14:49 PM
Quote from: Monoriu on October 18, 2015, 08:34:59 PM
I for one welcome this.  There is a nuclear power plant that is like 50 miles away from Hong Kong, and it was built in the 80s.  Pretty sure some of the electricity that I use comes from there.  I don't think there is much choice.  The air quality in China is so bad that it is a much bigger risk to health than the risk associated with nuclear reactors.  Solar and wind are not economical, and they have already built hydro power in most places where those can be built.  See Three Gorges Dam.

Says who? The price has come down drastically in the last ten years.

It isn't just the price of the solar panels or the wind turbines.  It is whether they are practical.  Even if you put solar panels on the rooftop of every building in Hong Kong, the amount of electricity generated will be negligible for our needs.  In a public housing estate for example, 25,000 people live in eight buildings.  The surface area of the rooftop of those eight buildings is no where near enough.  You also need to account for the inherent instabilities in the wind and solar power generation systems.  You don't get wind all the time, and you don't get sunlight all the time. 

jimmy olsen

Quote from: Monoriu on October 18, 2015, 10:21:02 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on October 18, 2015, 10:14:49 PM
Quote from: Monoriu on October 18, 2015, 08:34:59 PM
I for one welcome this.  There is a nuclear power plant that is like 50 miles away from Hong Kong, and it was built in the 80s.  Pretty sure some of the electricity that I use comes from there.  I don't think there is much choice.  The air quality in China is so bad that it is a much bigger risk to health than the risk associated with nuclear reactors.  Solar and wind are not economical, and they have already built hydro power in most places where those can be built.  See Three Gorges Dam.

Says who? The price has come down drastically in the last ten years.

It isn't just the price of the solar panels or the wind turbines.  It is whether they are practical.  Even if you put solar panels on the rooftop of every building in Hong Kong, the amount of electricity generated will be negligible for our needs.  In a public housing estate for example, 25,000 people live in eight buildings.  The surface area of the rooftop of those eight buildings is no where near enough.  You also need to account for the inherent instabilities in the wind and solar power generation systems.  You don't get wind all the time, and you don't get sunlight all the time.

Obviously it's impractical for the city of Hong Kong, but for a large country solar and wind can supply a substansial percentage of the power.
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Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
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