Ashley Madison offers £300,000 reward amid reports of member suicides

Started by Syt, August 24, 2015, 01:48:47 PM

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celedhring

Wasn't aware that adultery was still so frowned upon. Yes, it would be better if people were upfront about it, and just call the whole thing off if it's not working, but you just can't *force* people to be faithful. Seems pointless to me.

Then again, being a child of an unhappy marriage I have a lot of contempt for that institution and the expectations placed on it.

derspiess

Ultimately you can't force people to be faithful, but disincentivizing adultery is still possible IMO.
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Valmy

Quote from: celedhring on August 25, 2015, 09:36:04 AM
Wasn't aware that adultery was still so frowned upon. Yes, it would be better if people were upfront about it, and just call the whole thing off if it's not working, but you just can't *force* people to be faithful. Seems pointless to me.

Then again, being a child of an unhappy marriage I have a lot of contempt for that institution and the expectations placed on it.

I guess I missed the expectation that people be forced to be married and be faithful. If that is how marriage works in Spain I guess I would have contempt for it to.
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Valmy

Quote from: derspiess on August 25, 2015, 09:41:53 AM
Ultimately you can't force people to be faithful, but disincentivizing adultery is still possible IMO.

I have no issue so long as everybody agrees. I mean no way in hell I would want to be in an open relationship, I would sooner set myself on fire, but it may work for others.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Malthus

Quote from: celedhring on August 25, 2015, 09:36:04 AM
Wasn't aware that adultery was still so frowned upon. Yes, it would be better if people were upfront about it, and just call the whole thing off if it's not working, but you just can't *force* people to be faithful. Seems pointless to me.

Then again, being a child of an unhappy marriage I have a lot of contempt for that institution and the expectations placed on it.

Isn't cheating on a lover usually "frowned upon", whether they are married or not? I never heard anyone saying it wasn't bad behaviour.

Now, some folks have relationships that are upfront not exclusive, in which case having sex with others isn't "cheating" (and if they are married, while technically it is 'adultery' I think it isn't a problem). The whole point of cheating is that you are telling the person you purport to love that you are an exclusive couple, presumably in the expectation that they stay exclusive ... while you go out and have sex with others (and lie about it).
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Valmy

Quote from: Malthus on August 25, 2015, 09:45:16 AM
Isn't cheating on a lover usually "frowned upon", whether they are married or not? I never heard anyone saying it wasn't bad behaviour.

Excellent point counsel.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

celedhring

Quote from: Valmy on August 25, 2015, 09:43:44 AM
Quote from: celedhring on August 25, 2015, 09:36:04 AM
Wasn't aware that adultery was still so frowned upon. Yes, it would be better if people were upfront about it, and just call the whole thing off if it's not working, but you just can't *force* people to be faithful. Seems pointless to me.

Then again, being a child of an unhappy marriage I have a lot of contempt for that institution and the expectations placed on it.

I guess I missed the expectation that people be forced to be married and be faithful. If that is how marriage works in Spain I guess I would have contempt for it to.

For my parents' generation it certainly was.

Valmy

Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Grey Fox

I never thought that website was actually real.

Also, I don't think it works(ed) at all.

The vast majority of accounts are male and a good portion of the female accounts are fake.
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Malthus

Quote from: celedhring on August 25, 2015, 09:46:58 AM
Quote from: Valmy on August 25, 2015, 09:43:44 AM
Quote from: celedhring on August 25, 2015, 09:36:04 AM
Wasn't aware that adultery was still so frowned upon. Yes, it would be better if people were upfront about it, and just call the whole thing off if it's not working, but you just can't *force* people to be faithful. Seems pointless to me.

Then again, being a child of an unhappy marriage I have a lot of contempt for that institution and the expectations placed on it.

I guess I missed the expectation that people be forced to be married and be faithful. If that is how marriage works in Spain I guess I would have contempt for it to.

For my parents' generation it certainly was.

I'd be surprised if any sizable minority of folks signing up for Ashley Madison were conservative types from the older generation for whom marriage was an inescapable social obligation ...  ;)
The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane—Marcus Aurelius

Valmy

Quote from: Grey Fox on August 25, 2015, 09:49:41 AM
I never thought that website was actually real.

Also, I don't think it works(ed) at all.

The vast majority of accounts are male and a good portion of the female accounts are fake.

I seriously doubt that.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Valmy

Quote from: Malthus on August 25, 2015, 09:50:39 AM
I'd be surprised if any sizable minority of folks signing up for Ashley Madison were conservative types from the older generation for whom marriage was an inescapable social obligation ...  ;)

Well there are those like the Duggars.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

garbon

Quote from: Grey Fox on August 25, 2015, 09:49:41 AM
I never thought that website was actually real.

Also, I don't think it works(ed) at all.

The vast majority of accounts are male and a good portion of the female accounts are fake.

If you didn't know it was real, why would we take your word on whether or not it works? :huh:
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Valmy

Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."