STELLARIS: New Paradox Game in SPAAAACE

[Crazy_Ivan80]

Really? Now?
When you know space will be full of Swedish special events?
Gain +5 tax base in Alpha Centauri, get 6/6/6 general for free.

at least this time they'll get eugenics right

[garbon]

Latest dev diary isn't so great. Like CK2, as an attacker you'll be limited to taking whatever your initial war goals are. Unlike CK2, you can have multiple - but I don't see why a space faring race would be more diplomatically limited in war than states in EUIV.

[Berkut]

That sounds like great news to me.

One of the best things about MP EU3 was that you could not just dismantle an enemy completely in one war.

[garbon]

While there is something to be said about that, I think wars where the goals never evolve over time are lame.

[Berkut]

Shrug. I guess I imagine the game to be pretty dynamic, like all these games, and if play shows that they need some mechanism so that it could be the case that war goals might change, then we will see it at some point.

But starting from the basic premise that wars typically are not all out fight for existence (as most games treat them) is a very good thing.

[garbon]

I think this random commenter said it best for me - minus the great bit. :

Great DD yet this left me somewhat "unsatisfied":

Now I say this because I always thought that EU4 peace system was great if compared, for example, to that of CK2. I feel like it is a much more "accurate" way of portraying a peace deal...I agree with you that one should decide the main goals of a war and not being able to take over a whole empire in a single war, yet I also think that these goals shouldn't be limited this much. I am sure you guys talked quite a lot before deciding which system was better so I'd like to understand the process behind the choice in order to understand it and, why not, like it.

[Richard Hakluyt]

The DD does also state "There are other exceptions to how wars are waged, in the form of special types of civilizations, but that will have to wait for another dev diary." 

Perhaps many civilisations will adhere to certain diplomatic rules (such as in 18th century Europe) whilst a few will just ignore them? That would be the sensible thing i think.

I'm hoping that wargoals can also be added to if the war goes well or bitterly, much as it does in VicII.

I can see how it might work out quite well, we have a Galactic Civilisation with many competing powers who nevertheless have certain values in common. Then........disaster!...........a horrible race has been encountered that just kill everything 

[Josephus]

Don't forget the rules will change with each successive expansion pack.

[Jaron]

When the hell is this being released?

[crazy canuck]

Don't forget the rules will change with each successive expansion pack.

I look  forward to planetary fortresses that will inhibit the movement of interstellar craft.

[Richard Hakluyt]

Don't forget the rules will change with each successive expansion pack.

I really like that model as it keeps the game fresh for me, in games mastery=boredom.

[Zanza]

Release date 9th May

[Habbaku]

My body is ready.

[Berkut]

This is going to get a very rare Berkut first day purchase.

[Habbaku]

Gameplay video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Go-WHiRqEMg