STELLARIS: New Paradox Game in SPAAAACE

[garbon]

I thought he was just explaining his point of view/why he still likes it.

[Josquius]

Yeah, I agree with the point. You have to actively try to make things move, which is far from perfect, but if you do it can be quite fun.

[crazy canuck]

I thought he was just explaining his point of view/why he still likes it.

sorry, the line that you have to "have the balls" to do x in order to enjoy this game is a bit much, even for a game nerd

[chipwich]

. The flaws are real, but despite them I find myself interested in playing anyway. I abandon games regularly once they reach a point where they are not terribly interesting anymore, for whatever reason

Don't you think this is a problem?

[Berkut]

. The flaws are real, but despite them I find myself interested in playing anyway. I abandon games regularly once they reach a point where they are not terribly interesting anymore, for whatever reason

Don't you think this is a problem?

Definitely.

But it doesn't stop me from coming back and playing again.

[Berkut]

I thought he was just explaining his point of view/why he still likes it.

sorry, the line that you have to "have the balls" to do x in order to enjoy this game is a bit much, even for a game nerd

What is a bit much is you trying making some comments about why I like a game into some kind of personal bullshit. Take it the other forum if you want to engage in a pissing match over why someone likes a game you don't.

[Berkut]

It's not up for discussion CC.

[Berkut]

....so anyway....

The Star Trek mod is really impressive. Much like Stellaris, there is a lot that is potentially even more impressive.

You could develop out the events, and storylines, etc., etc. Would love to see a Borg mega crisis for example.

But it does have the basic problem that you can kind of play it without anything really happening...

[chipwich]

Is it really fun to "have the balls" to throw some massive war alliance vs alliance, fight for hours, deal with the tedious, carpal-tunnelish process of managing armies (or god forbid upgrading them, which can only be done one at a time  ), then only be able to take a handful of planets from the peacedeal, and start the whole process over?

[HVC]

Is it really fun to "have the balls" to throw some massive war alliance vs alliance, fight for hours, deal with the tedious, carpal-tunnelish process of managing armies (or god forbid upgrading them, which can only be done one at a time  ), then only be able to take a handful of planets from the peacedeal, and start the whole process over?

careful or the pink text will come out.

I played like 120 some odd hours in the first month or so playing different types of races and governments, but I got bored. I still think it can be a fun game once fixed, but it's shelved for now. I still think, overall I got my monies worth because it's still one of my steam games with the most hours played, and I still have hope it'll be fixed at some point.

[Berkut]

Is it really fun to "have the balls" to throw some massive war alliance vs alliance, fight for hours, deal with the tedious, carpal-tunnelish process of managing armies (or god forbid upgrading them, which can only be done one at a time  ), then only be able to take a handful of planets from the peacedeal, and start the whole process over?

It sure doesn't sound like it...but apparently it is to me.

The army interface does suck something fierce. I don't bother upgrading them, since I don't think the effect is worth the clicks, unless I build an army ahead of time.

Again, I am not arguing that YOU should find it fun, just pointing out that I do. Or did. I haven't played much lately, since I am waiting for the next patch.

[garbon]

Latest announced changes are concerning. Unless they are really holding back on key changes, none of the changes noted this week seem very critical.

[Berkut]

I cant get to Paradox at work - any interesting summary?

[garbon]

Changes to planet types (now 3 groups and you've 60% habitability to planets who are in your group but not your specific type)
Changes in number of habitable planets (much fewer) - also colonisation no longer needs tech researching for planet types, just need habitability above 30% (default for planets not your group is 20%)
Alliances are out as they were some middling stage that wasn't non-agression pact or federation
Federations now have some sort of associate status that can be granted to non-members to work as a NAP
New toggles for control of sectors

Nothing I really disagree with but none of which really works much to substantial issues with gameplay (more of nice to haves).

[Berkut]

In comparison to EU, Stellaris is just missing the actual history that makes EU so damn awesome.

To me, there are two things they are trying to do, and I assume they consider them separately:

1. Provide the game framework that is fun, interesting, and has lots of meaningful choices and options, and

2. Build a "world" on top of that framework that can capture the interests of the players.

I think they have about 70% of #1 right now, but maybe only 30% of #2.