Puerto Rico’s Governor Says Island’s Debts Are ‘Not Payable’

Started by jimmy olsen, June 29, 2015, 02:17:00 AM

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lustindarkness

Quote from: Tonitrus on June 29, 2015, 08:44:19 PM
Quote from: lustindarkness on June 29, 2015, 08:18:18 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on June 29, 2015, 07:41:51 PM
Quote from: Valmy on June 29, 2015, 09:56:11 AM
Quote from: derspiess on June 29, 2015, 09:54:14 AM
Yeah Tim, let's make these guys a state :lol:

They'll fit right in -_-

But seriously: the territories need to become/join states or GTFO. Stupid territories muddling our system of government.

We gotta keep Guam...I've known many a HOTT lady from Guam (and the military would like to keep it, too).

By that logic we would have to keep PR also. ;)

They don't seem as crazy as the Latina ladies.  :P

I don't know about women in Guam, but the Ricans sure are crazy. :)
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derspiess

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jimmy olsen

I hope they tell them to go fuck themselves.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jul/28/hedge-funds-puerto-rico-close-schools-fire-teachers-pay-us-back

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Hedge funds tell Puerto Rico: lay off teachers and close schools to pay us back


Report commissioned by 34 hedge funds says government had been 'massively overspending on education' despite spending only 79% of US average per pupil

Rupert Neate in New York   
Tuesday 28 July 2015 12.00 BST 

Billionaire hedge fund managers have called on Puerto Rico to lay off teachers and close schools so that the island can pay them back the billions it owes.

The hedge funds called for Puerto Rico to avoid financial default – and repay its debts – by collecting more taxes, selling $4bn worth of public buildings and drastically cutting public spending, particularly on education.

The group of 34 hedge funds hired former International Monetary Fund (IMF) economists to come up with a solution to Puerto Rico's debt crisis after the island's governor declared its $72bn debt "unpayable" – paving the way for bankruptcy.

The funds are "distressed debt" specialists, also known as vulture funds, and several have also sought to make money out of crises in Greece and Argentina, the collapse of Lehman Brothers and the near collapse of Co-op Bank in the UK.

The report, entitled For Puerto Rico, There is a Better Way, said Puerto Rico could save itself from default if it improves tax collection and drastically cuts back on public spending.

It accused the island, where 56% of children live in poverty, of spending too much on education even though the government has already closed down almost 100 schools so far this year.

The report, by Jose Fajgenbaum, Jorge Guzmán and Claudio Loser – all former IMF economists who now work for Centennial Group, said Puerto Rico had increased education spending by $1.4bn over the past decade while enrolment had declined by about 25% as hundreds of thousands of families fled to the US mainland in an effort to escape poverty.

Puerto Rico has actively courted billionaires and hedge fund investors as it has struggled with its mounting debts. It sold hundreds of millions worth of debt to vulture funds last year.

Fajgenbaum told the Guardian that the Puerto Rico government had been "massively overspending on education". He said spending had increased by 39% to $4.8bn over the last decade while attendance had fallen from more than 765,000 to 573,000.

He declined to state by how much the government should cut spending, but said: "The real expense per student has increased enormously without increasing the quality of education. It's for the government to decide [how much to cut spending by], but you don't want to waste government resources. There has to be efficiencies. It is more important to establish a position for growth."

Puerto Rico's current education spending works out at $8,400 per student, below the US national average of $10,667.

Víctor Suárez, chief of staff to Puerto Rico's governor Alejandro García Padilla, said: "The simple fact remains that extreme austerity [alone] is not a viable solution for an economy already on its knees."

Luis Gallardo, majority municipal legislator for Aguas Buenas, said the hedge fund-commissioned report was a "typically IMF recipe for radical austerity".

"They are proposing teacher layoffs, cuts in higher education and health benefits, as well as increased taxes. These proposals have been a disaster for Latin America and would be so for Puerto Rico. Sure, Puerto Rico could pay its debt, but at what cost? We are literally cutting off our own limbs just to stay afloat.

"The Puerto Rican government has already closed down almost 100 schools this year and reconfigured 500 more, as well has having closed down 60 the year prior. I am not sure what else they are expecting. If they expect us to lay off teachers or cut their already-low salaries, they are out of their minds.

"These guys need to chill out and give Puerto Rico some breathing space."

Gallardo said it was shocking that the hedge funds "expect teachers, students and workers to absorb the hit, and they are not willing to budge themselves".

The hedge fund-commissioned report comes after former IMF official Anne Krueger said, in a report commissioned by the Puerto Rican government, that the island's crisis could be solved but only if the bondholders, including the hedge funds, accepted a significant debt restructuring.

The funds, which include New York-based Fir Tree Partners, Davidson Kempner Capital Management and Aurelius Capital, are known as the Ad Hoc Group of Puerto Rico and hold $5.2bn of Puerto Rico bonds.

Fir Tree Partners, which is named after its multibillionaire founder Jeff Tannenbaum (which means fir tree in German), made a lot of money by betting on complex debt securities in the 2008 financial crisis, and from the Greek and Argentinian debt crises.

Aurelius Capital, which is run by billionaire Mark Brodsky, sued Argentina for repayment of debts and forced the Co-op to give up control of its troubled bank. The company was also one of the investors that initially objected to Detroit's bankruptcy plans.

Fajgenbaum and Loser said the hedge funds did not influence the content of their report, and declined to state how much money they were paid for their work.
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Monoriu

Presumably if Puerto Rico can tell its creditors to go fuck themselves, it already has.  There must be reasons why it cannot do so.  A guess would be that Puerto Rico still runs deficits, and if it defaults now, it will have to make painful adjustments to balance the budget immediately. 

Who owns Puerto Rico's debt anyway?  Is there a possibility that some of the debt is held by local residents?  In that case, defaulting on the loans means locals take a cut in their savings and investments as well. 

Lettow77

 If mono was a lesser person- a more 'despicable' person, if you will, he'd be salivating over the prospect of puerto rican hardships like our intrepid reporter is continually seeing in every auspice and augury a coming Chinese disaster.
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Admiral Yi

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jimmy olsen

Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 29, 2015, 06:46:27 AM
Claudio Loser was my old uber-boss at the Western Hemisphere Department.

Ooh, don't just leave it at that, give us some inside information.
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Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
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Jet: I see.
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jimmy olsen

It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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Admiral Yi

Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 29, 2015, 07:33:25 AM
It's a deal.

Argentinian Jew, slight hunchback, real nice guy.  Got the boot around the time Argentina went tits up.

derspiess

"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Darth Wagtaros

Quote from: Tonitrus on June 29, 2015, 03:18:24 AM
Sounds like a good reason, like Greece, to kick them out of the American Union.  :P
They either accept statehood or independence by Jingo!
PDH!

alfred russel

Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 29, 2015, 10:01:29 AM
Quote from: derspiess on June 29, 2015, 09:54:14 AM
Yeah Tim, let's make these guys a state :lol:
Kansas is well on its way to bankruptcy as well. You want to kick them out?

Kansas just needs to stop paying severance to Charlie Weis, and it will be fine.
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