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Started by Korea, March 10, 2009, 06:24:26 AM

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Sheilbh

Yep - and that's also the start of his interactions with Hoover.

Another weird fact - Hoover is maybe the first significant person to turn on McCarthy. He basically turns off the taps so McCarthy's Committee no longer gets access to FBI-sourced information. It should be said this isn't because of an attack on conscience - it seems that he thought McCarthy was grandstanding/stealing credit and using FBI material in ways Hoover hadn't agreed to and thought could attract negative attention.
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Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 09, 2025, 04:07:28 PMI learned a very weird fact yesterday while watching an old 60 Minutes interview with Roy Cohn.  Bobby Kennedy also served as a legal assistant to Joseph McCarthy.

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I thought that was common knowledge; I read about it aged 16-18 for my history A level.  :bowler:
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mongers

I don't think I've ever had to open a gate to allow a steam traction engine to pass on a road before today?  :bowler:
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Savonarola

From the Pew Research Center

Online opt-in polls can produce misleading results, especially for young people and Hispanic adults

QuoteFor example, in a February 2022 survey experiment, we asked opt-in respondents if they were licensed to operate a class SSGN (nuclear) submarine. In the opt-in survey, 12% of adults under 30 claimed this qualification, significantly higher than the share among older respondents. In reality, the share of Americans with this type of submarine license rounds to 0%.

The problem was even worse for Hispanic estimates. About a quarter (24%) of opt-in cases claiming to be Hispanic said they were licensed to operate a nuclear sub, versus 2% of non-Hispanics.

And I thought I'd seen resumes with some stretchers on them...
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Admiral Yi

A Pew summer intern found something interesting to do with his/her time.  Good for them.

DGuller

Quote from: Savonarola on May 12, 2025, 04:01:27 PMFrom the Pew Research Center

Online opt-in polls can produce misleading results, especially for young people and Hispanic adults

QuoteFor example, in a February 2022 survey experiment, we asked opt-in respondents if they were licensed to operate a class SSGN (nuclear) submarine. In the opt-in survey, 12% of adults under 30 claimed this qualification, significantly higher than the share among older respondents. In reality, the share of Americans with this type of submarine license rounds to 0%.

The problem was even worse for Hispanic estimates. About a quarter (24%) of opt-in cases claiming to be Hispanic said they were licensed to operate a nuclear sub, versus 2% of non-Hispanics.

And I thought I'd seen resumes with some stretchers on them...
This kind of self-selection bias makes sense to me.  If you're going to be submerged in the ocean for a year straight, you're probably going to be bored enough to respond to polls that most others wouldn't bother with.

grumbler

Quote from: DGuller on May 12, 2025, 05:55:12 PM
Quote from: Savonarola on May 12, 2025, 04:01:27 PMFrom the Pew Research Center

Online opt-in polls can produce misleading results, especially for young people and Hispanic adults

QuoteFor example, in a February 2022 survey experiment, we asked opt-in respondents if they were licensed to operate a class SSGN (nuclear) submarine. In the opt-in survey, 12% of adults under 30 claimed this qualification, significantly higher than the share among older respondents. In reality, the share of Americans with this type of submarine license rounds to 0%.

The problem was even worse for Hispanic estimates. About a quarter (24%) of opt-in cases claiming to be Hispanic said they were licensed to operate a nuclear sub, versus 2% of non-Hispanics.

And I thought I'd seen resumes with some stretchers on them...
This kind of self-selection bias makes sense to me.  If you're going to be submerged in the ocean for a year straight, you're probably going to be bored enough to respond to polls that most others wouldn't bother with.

Except for the fact that you won't be able to access the internet while the sub is submerged...
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Tamas

Quote from: Razgovory on May 08, 2025, 06:14:41 PMWell that seem to have fallen through.  I will talk to a lawyer tomorrow.  I don't have any other options at this point.

Any news Raz?

Josquius

Quote from: DGuller on May 12, 2025, 05:55:12 PM
Quote from: Savonarola on May 12, 2025, 04:01:27 PMFrom the Pew Research Center

Online opt-in polls can produce misleading results, especially for young people and Hispanic adults

QuoteFor example, in a February 2022 survey experiment, we asked opt-in respondents if they were licensed to operate a class SSGN (nuclear) submarine. In the opt-in survey, 12% of adults under 30 claimed this qualification, significantly higher than the share among older respondents. In reality, the share of Americans with this type of submarine license rounds to 0%.

The problem was even worse for Hispanic estimates. About a quarter (24%) of opt-in cases claiming to be Hispanic said they were licensed to operate a nuclear sub, versus 2% of non-Hispanics.

And I thought I'd seen resumes with some stretchers on them...
This kind of self-selection bias makes sense to me.  If you're going to be submerged in the ocean for a year straight, you're probably going to be bored enough to respond to polls that most others wouldn't bother with.

:lol:

But, as someone in the field, I do think a lot of this comes from the general public learning how surveys work.
You can't just outright ask "can you pilot a submarine" as people know a "no" on this boots them from the survey and any potential rewards on offer.
It's real amateur hour screener stuff.
You have to be a lot more tricksy and not make it obvious what answers lead to which path on the decision tree. It's not easy.
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Razgovory

Quote from: Tamas on Today at 02:45:06 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on May 08, 2025, 06:14:41 PMWell that seem to have fallen through.  I will talk to a lawyer tomorrow.  I don't have any other options at this point.

Any news Raz?
I saw a lawyer, he didn't know what to do either.  I'll see him next Thursday. 
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Razgovory

Yeah, so I'm going to have to put my mom in the hospital.  She keeps trying to take a bunch of pills.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

grumbler

Quote from: Razgovory on Today at 09:29:36 AMYeah, so I'm going to have to put my mom in the hospital.  She keeps trying to take a bunch of pills.

Good lord! You keep getting hammered, don't you? I wish that there were more I could do than just express my sympathies and best wishes.
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Razgovory

Quote from: grumbler on Today at 11:19:44 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on Today at 09:29:36 AMYeah, so I'm going to have to put my mom in the hospital.  She keeps trying to take a bunch of pills.

Good lord! You keep getting hammered, don't you? I wish that there were more I could do than just express my sympathies and best wishes.
She's been developing dementia and the recent thing with losing her home is making it much worse.  Three days ago she asked me if her mother was still alive, a woman who's been dead for 30 years.  She keeps asking me to fix her phone, but when I ask what's wrong with it she doesn't know and gets angry.  There is nothing wrong with her phone as I can tell.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017