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Israel-Hamas War 2023

Started by Zanza, October 07, 2023, 04:56:14 AM

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Savonarola

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Quote from: Valmy on May 10, 2024, 02:10:57 PM
Quote from: Savonarola on May 10, 2024, 01:46:13 PMBefore 1941, the German government encouraged Jewish emigration (after a heavy emigration tax and severe limits to the amount of money that could be taken from the country.)

That doesn't sound like a set of policies one would enact to encourage emigration  :ph34r:

Fair, they had other policies that encouraged emmigration.  Knowing Languish I knew someone was going to bring up the emigration tax if I didn't.

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Josquius

Quote from: Barrister on May 10, 2024, 12:16:34 PMThis is just sort of an aside.  My 10 year old was kind of interested in conspiracy theories.  He asked me once "what do you think the biggest conspiracy theory in the world is".

I think he expected me to say flat earth, or moon landings were fake, or something "fun".

Instead I had to answer "that Jews secretly control the world".

Now to our kids credit (or how he's been raised) I don't think he's ever heard of such a thing.  But sadly though I don't think he's ever met a jewish person, which is maybe just an Edmonton thing.  Jewish population in Winnipeg growing up was pretty significant.

My first introduction to Jews as a thing that actually exists in the modern west and anti - semitism was South Park.
That I'm aware of I can't remember ever meeting a Jewish person before then. They just existed as some vague thing in the history books from Ww2.
I really don't think my experience in this is too unusual.
And I grew up not too far from one of the biggest heredi communities around.
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Quote from: Josquius on May 10, 2024, 03:16:52 AMThere's also "Yes and" and "Did you also consider this angle".

I'm not accusing you of anything here. Just speaking about attitudes to historic misdeeds in the world.

"Just speaking" does not have any discernable meaning.  If I call you a moron and say I'm "just speaking" about your intelligence it doesn't alter the rest of my content in any way.

If you "just speak" something in juxtaposition to a comment I make, it can be agreement, disagreement, qualification/partial agreement (as you mentioned), one of the bad faith arguments I mentioned, or a non sequitur.  So please tell me what you think the relevance of your comments was to the comments I had made, which you then quoted.  What is the logical connection between the two.

Valmy

Quote from: Josquius on May 10, 2024, 02:32:55 PMMy first introduction to Jews as a thing that actually exists in the modern west and anti - semitism was South Park.
That I'm aware of I can't remember ever meeting a Jewish person before then. They just existed as some vague thing in the history books from Ww2.
I really don't think my experience in this is too unusual.
And I grew up not too far from one of the biggest heredi communities around.

I honestly had no idea hating Jews was still a thing until the Internet. And then I realized it was fucking everywhere. But that was kind of sexism and racism in general.

Me in the 1990s: Is racism and sexism really that big a deal anymore?

Me in the 2000s: Holy shit everybody is such a racist and sexist. What are we doing?
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