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German Federal Election 23rd February 2025

Started by Zanza, November 12, 2024, 02:53:24 PM

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Who do you vote for?

2 (7.7%)
5 (19.2%)
3 (11.5%)
6 (23.1%)
7 (26.9%)
3 (11.5%)

Total Members Voted: 26

Sheilbh

Quote from: Jacob on February 10, 2025, 06:45:45 PMI assume "high income" is just a different way to say "Western Europe + US + Canada"?
So I looked it up - that chart is from the Lancet and those categories are the "GBD Super-Regions" which is apparently "Global Burden of Disease" super-regions. Which is a bit more nuanced and unusual than I'd expected. Map below with super-regions and the regions within them:

Let's bomb Russia!

Admiral Yi

Quote from: Valmy on February 10, 2025, 10:01:04 AMOk what is the principle involved? I figured that the reason we support immigration is because it is good for the country. Bring in more workers and enrich the country with new cultural influences. But if immigration becomes bad for the country, it empowers far right political forces or suppresses wages or whatever, then immigration should be limited. Right? Or is there some reason immigration should be embraced regardless of whether or not it is otherwise good for the country? Like the principle of the free movement of labor?

Humanitarianism.  Being nice to people.  Improving people's lives.

Duque de Bragança

Quote from: Valmy on February 10, 2025, 06:43:24 PMYeah I have been saying that for awhile. The immigration issue is eventually going to go away very organically. All those right wing freaks worrying about being replaced can rest easy. Nobody is having babies anymore.

Well expect me, I had three.

Do you expect to have more?!  :P

Valmy

Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Valmy

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Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 10, 2025, 07:40:28 PM
Quote from: Valmy on February 10, 2025, 10:01:04 AMOk what is the principle involved? I figured that the reason we support immigration is because it is good for the country. Bring in more workers and enrich the country with new cultural influences. But if immigration becomes bad for the country, it empowers far right political forces or suppresses wages or whatever, then immigration should be limited. Right? Or is there some reason immigration should be embraced regardless of whether or not it is otherwise good for the country? Like the principle of the free movement of labor?

Humanitarianism.  Being nice to people.  Improving people's lives.

Sure. But can we guarantee that would be the outcome for those immigrants if the far right takes over?
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

crazy canuck

I am struggling to think of a country that had an immigration policy based on being nice to people.

Crazy_Ivan80

Quote from: Valmy on February 11, 2025, 01:31:07 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 10, 2025, 07:40:28 PM
Quote from: Valmy on February 10, 2025, 10:01:04 AMOk what is the principle involved? I figured that the reason we support immigration is because it is good for the country. Bring in more workers and enrich the country with new cultural influences. But if immigration becomes bad for the country, it empowers far right political forces or suppresses wages or whatever, then immigration should be limited. Right? Or is there some reason immigration should be embraced regardless of whether or not it is otherwise good for the country? Like the principle of the free movement of labor?

Humanitarianism.  Being nice to people.  Improving people's lives.

Sure. But can we guarantee that would be the outcome for those immigrants if the far right takes over?

or for the host society even if extremists don't take over. It's not like immigrants leave their medieval ideas behind when they cross the border. Let in enough people that believe gays should be killed and your society will become like that.

Sheilbh

Quote from: crazy canuck on February 11, 2025, 01:32:20 PMI am struggling to think of a country that had an immigration policy based on being nice to people.
It's not immigration, but when you go through passport control in Georgia they give you a complementary (small) bottle of wine :)
Let's bomb Russia!

crazy canuck

Quote from: Sheilbh on February 11, 2025, 04:20:36 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on February 11, 2025, 01:32:20 PMI am struggling to think of a country that had an immigration policy based on being nice to people.
It's not immigration, but when you go through passport control in Georgia they give you a complementary (small) bottle of wine :)

You're right, that is tourism marketing at its finest.