EU Immigration Crisis Megathread

[Valmy]

You do realise that Germany and the EU are in talks with Erdogan about sponsoring the Turkish refugee camps in exchange of Erdogan preventing people from leaving Turkey, right?

What is wrong with that plan?

Giving money to help Turkey with their refugee crisis is just a fair thing to do if the EU is not going to provide shelter for everybody.

[The Brain]

Apparently she's now considered for the Nobel Peace Prize. 

Obama should get another one.

He's still not Bush!

[Zanza]

You do realise that Germany and the EU are in talks with Erdogan about sponsoring the Turkish refugee camps in exchange of Erdogan preventing people from leaving Turkey, right?

What is wrong with that plan?

Giving money to help Turkey with their refugee crisis is just a fair thing to do if the EU is not going to provide shelter for everybody,

It is quite telling that we only became this altruistic when the migrants showed up on our doorstep. It was convenient to ignore it for years beforehand.

[Crazy_Ivan80]

The latest figure in the German press is that there might be up to 1.5 million migrants coming to Germany this year as we still get about 10,000 per day. If there is a harsh winter, there is no way we can adequately house that many people. Will be interesting to see how this turns out. There is also forming quite a bit of resistance against Merkel even in the two mainstream parties that make up our governing coalition. This will turn ugly with a couple of weeks.

at least we'll know who to curse in a decade or so when the integration problem totally spires out of control.

[Zanza]

The multitude of Middle Eastern and African potentates that created the terrible situation that triggered this massive migration?

[crazy canuck]

Bush?

[Tamas]

You do realise that Germany and the EU are in talks with Erdogan about sponsoring the Turkish refugee camps in exchange of Erdogan preventing people from leaving Turkey, right?

What is wrong with that plan?

Giving money to help Turkey with their refugee crisis is just a fair thing to do if the EU is not going to provide shelter for everybody.

I think it is a great plan. Didn't seem to fit with Marty's zealous stance, is all

[Crazy_Ivan80]

The multitude of Middle Eastern and African potentates that created the terrible situation that triggered this massive migration?

how about the multitude of politically correct european politicians with their defacto open borders policies.

[Eddie Teach]

There will be plenty of blame to go around.

[Martinus]

You do realise that Germany and the EU are in talks with Erdogan about sponsoring the Turkish refugee camps in exchange of Erdogan preventing people from leaving Turkey, right?

The narrative is of course not to prevent them from leaving Turkey, but to make life in those camps more bearable and support Turkey in its care for the millions of refugees. I guess it is both which makes it ethically ambigous. I can understand why people prefer to come to Europe and I think that we should try to keep our basic right to asylum alive somehow. But there is no right to come here if you have found asylum elsewhere. And while I can understand and empathize with every single individual that seeks a better life, I also see that the capability of Europe (and right now that's mainly Germany and Sweden) is limited, so we cannot take everyone on economic grounds. I have less of a problem with closing down our borders if those camps in Turkey are well-funded.

Well, it would be great if they could stay in Turkey, but the pre-condition for that must be Turkey improving both the conditions at the camps and their administrative processes radically - for the time being we have to take these people.

[Martinus]

The multitude of Middle Eastern and African potentates that created the terrible situation that triggered this massive migration?

how about the multitude of politically correct european politicians with their defacto open borders policies.

I will repeat - why do all the racists always come from the shittiest countries, like Belgium or Portugal?

[Archy]

The multitude of Middle Eastern and African potentates that created the terrible situation that triggered this massive migration?

how about the multitude of politically correct european politicians with their defacto open borders policies.

I will repeat - why do all the racists always come from the shittiest countries, like Belgium or Portugal?

We're apparently not that shitty seen all fugitives coming here instead of Poland 
To be honest I think EU should help these fugitives and I'm pro dividing them all over but it should be handled much better (current situation is especially shitty for Italy and Greece, I'm even pro economic immigration under certain conditions. But on the other hand I'm sure we can't take everyone who comes over here so their should be measures to reduce the fugitive and immigrant streams.

[Monoriu]

The multitude of Middle Eastern and African potentates that created the terrible situation that triggered this massive migration?

how about the multitude of politically correct european politicians with their defacto open borders policies.

I will repeat - why do all the racists always come from the shittiest countries, like Belgium or Portugal?

Belgium and Portugal are hardly the poorest countries in the EU. 

[Liep]

The multitude of Middle Eastern and African potentates that created the terrible situation that triggered this massive migration?

how about the multitude of politically correct european politicians with their defacto open borders policies.

I will repeat - why do all the racists always come from the shittiest countries, like Belgium or Portugal?

Belgium and Portugal are hardly the poorest countries in the EU. 

How similar would lists of the poorest EU countries and the shittiest EU countries be?

[Crazy_Ivan80]

The multitude of Middle Eastern and African potentates that created the terrible situation that triggered this massive migration?

how about the multitude of politically correct european politicians with their defacto open borders policies.

I will repeat - why do all the racists always come from the shittiest countries, like Belgium or Portugal?

clearly you left Brussels far too soon.