Fuck Nokia and Siemens

[Caliga]

Listen to the NPR broadcast

Sorry, but NPR broadcasts make me want to cut off my own nuts and teabag myself.

Diane Rehm

[Martinus]

Summary for everyone else: Nokia & Siemens sold that same equipment to every other country(organization/business) who offered to give them money for said products. They really don't get to make a call on how these things are implemented.

Are these kinds of equipment useful for evil regimes? Yes? Can they be used for non evil purposes? Yes.

That's a really really shitty excuse. If I run a gun-selling shop, only because I also sell guns to law-abiding citizens does not alleviate my responsibility for knowingly selling guns to a maniacal killer. They do not have to do business with Iran - they chose to - and they could have reasonably expected what use this technology will be put to.

Your shitty argument could actually very well be used to defend selling enriched uranium to Iran or North Korea as well - after all, nuclear energy can be used for "non evil purposes", too.

It's not my shitty argument. it's theirs. I'm not culpable for Billion dollar corporations doing business with whoever the fuck they want (any of them old enough also did business with the Nazis like every other multi-national) Evil (by their very nature) Corporations doing business with Evil govs without giving a shit what their product is used for? Exactly how the world works.

Don't buy their products. It's all you can do. like pissing into a hurricane.

Ok, that's what I am going to do, actually. I thought you were in the Zanza camp arguing it's alright and not morally wrong.

[Martinus]

Apparently, Iranians have discovered a new breach in the Iran's cyber defenses: World of Warcraft.

http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2009/06/19/videogames-a-way-to-avoid-irans-web-censors/

"Perhaps games provide a possible source of covert channels (e.g. 'Bring your elves to the castle on the island of Azeroth and we'll plan the next Ahmadinejad protest rally?')," he writes.

[Neil]

Ok, that's what I am going to do, actually. I thought you were in the Zanza camp arguing it's alright and not morally wrong.

You know what's morally wrong?  Defying your government.

[Martinus]

Ok, that's what I am going to do, actually. I thought you were in the Zanza camp arguing it's alright and not morally wrong.

You know what's morally wrong?  Defying your government.

Oh please. I know you thrive on posting retarded trolls, but defending the Iranian regime is out-of-character even for your online persona.

[Ed Anger]

Apparently, Iranians have discovered a new breach in the Iran's cyber defenses: World of Warcraft.

http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2009/06/19/videogames-a-way-to-avoid-irans-web-censors/

"Perhaps games provide a possible source of covert channels (e.g. 'Bring your elves to the castle on the island of Azeroth and we'll plan the next Ahmadinejad protest rally?')," he writes.

I'd laugh if the Rev. Guard pk'ed them in the game too.

LOLZ.

[Warspite]

What is the next terrifying weapon of the Basij: the kubelwagen?

[grumbler]

Sorry, but NPR broadcasts make me want to cut off my own nuts and teabag myself.

Cool! 

We could sell tickets, and broadcast t live on the Diane Rehm show!

[Ed Anger]

I'd pay a dollar to see Seedy teabag NPR hosts.

[Neil]

Ok, that's what I am going to do, actually. I thought you were in the Zanza camp arguing it's alright and not morally wrong.

You know what's morally wrong?  Defying your government.

Oh please. I know you thrive on posting retarded trolls, but defending the Iranian regime is out-of-character even for your online persona.

And yet attacking protesters and anything that Russophiles like Spellus support is very much me.

[grumbler]

I'd pay a dollar to see Seedy teabag NPR hosts.

Diane Rehm, yes.  Kojo Nnamdi, no.

[BuddhaRhubarb]

Ok, that's what I am going to do, actually. I thought you were in the Zanza camp arguing it's alright and not morally wrong.

You know what's morally wrong?  Defying your government.

Bah. Cromwell hater.