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Kingdom Come: Deliverance

Started by Norgy, May 06, 2015, 02:16:58 AM

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Valmy

#30
January 16, 2025, 11:09:28 AM
The last game had non-white characters  :lol:  One of the things I really liked about the first game was the inclusion of the Cumans.

Oh well.
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#31
January 17, 2025, 10:20:27 AM
That's an amazing thread given that the sturm and angst is driven by an anonymous Saudi poster claiming that a game whose release hasn't even been announced was banned by Saudi.
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The Minsky Moment

#32
January 17, 2025, 11:52:05 AM
I didn't have a problem with the fact the KC:D didn't include certain races and depicted gender relations in traditional ways because that was in accord with the vision of the development team in giving a particular sense of the historical time and place.  I don't think it would have been horribly immersion breaking to do it another way, but I respect their right to follow their own vision on that. Obviously, there is ample evidence of gay relationships in medieval Europe such that its inclusion in KC:D2 follows logically and even inevitably from the developers long-stated conception of the game. The hysterical reaction from the anti-woke brigade exposes their supposed adherence to historical fidelity as cover for bigotry. 

I had intended to wait this game out until the deep discounts kicked in 2 years down the line but now I am sorely tempted to preorder. :)
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garbon

#33
January 17, 2025, 11:54:46 AM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on January 17, 2025, 11:52:05 AMI didn't have a problem with the fact the KC:D didn't include certain races and depicted gender relations in traditional ways because that was in accord with the vision of the development team in giving a particular sense of the historical time and place.  I don't think it would have been horribly immersion breaking to do it another way, but I respect their right to follow their own vision on that. Obviously, there is ample evidence of gay relationships in medieval Europe such that its inclusion in KC:D2 follows logically and even inevitably from the developers long-stated conception of the game. The hysterical reaction from the anti-woke brigade exposes their supposed adherence to historical fidelity as cover for bigotry. 

I had intended to wait this game out until the deep discounts kicked in 2 years down the line but now I am sorely tempted to preorder. :)

I think my issue was how they presented their vision as the historical depiction with their first release.
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#34
January 17, 2025, 02:32:53 PM
Yeah no black Czechs is one thing but the whole depiction was such an idealised version of the middle ages that it felt very juvenile
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