A billion miles past Pluto, New Horizon flies by Ultima Thule

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Eddie Teach

Quote from: HVC on July 14, 2015, 10:47:50 AM
pluto always weirded me out. All the other animals could talk and think, except Pluto. Was he retarded? Did Mickey keep his slow friend and treat him like a pet?

They also could stand on their hind legs. And wore (some) clothes.
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Syt

The Ducks don't believe in pants, though (although Scrooge occasionally wears a kilt). They like to swing free, I guess. And Minnie Mouse's short dress often flashed her frilly panties.
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Norgy

Donald Duck is one of my favourite anti-heroes ever.
Mickey Mouse was just too sensible.

Syt

Never really liked Mickey, or Goofy for that matter. Always loved everything Duck related, esp. Scrooge McDuck.
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jimmy olsen

Quote from: Syt on July 15, 2015, 06:53:47 AM
Never really liked Mickey, or Goofy for that matter. Always loved everything Duck related, esp. Scrooge McDuck.
I liked the Goofy movie, especially the scene with the Michael Jackson knockoff.
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Syt

I will admit I like the old Sports Goofy cartoons, and the ones where he tries to do something following an instruction booklet/radio show.
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Norgy

Quote from: Syt on July 15, 2015, 06:53:47 AM
Never really liked Mickey, or Goofy for that matter. Always loved everything Duck related, esp. Scrooge McDuck.

The old Carl Barks story cartoons were brilliant in their simplicity and story-telling.
I think they're responsible for numerous Norwegians' ability to read and interest in history.
The first Donald Duck weekly I have that survived is from 1975, two years after I was born. My parents were attentive to reading aloud to me, and I loved just looking at the drawings. One of the best Christmas gifts ever was the huge "Me, Donald Duck" book with most of the really good Carl Barks stories.
Thank you, America, for that piece of cultural imperialism.

Syt

Carl Barks was great, but I was surprised to hear that a lot of stories that became popular in Germany from the 60s through 80s in the "Lustiges Taschenbuch" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Duck_pocket_books) series (usually ca. 200 pages pocket books) were penned in Italy.
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Quote from: Syt on July 15, 2015, 09:16:08 AM
Carl Barks was great, but I was surprised to hear that a lot of stories that became popular in Germany from the 60s through 80s in the "Lustiges Taschenbuch" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Duck_pocket_books) series (usually ca. 200 pages pocket books) were penned in Italy.

Same ones we got here. Our Mickey/Donald books were a compilation of Italian and American stories, with a few locally produced ones.

Norgy

Quote from: Syt on July 15, 2015, 09:16:08 AM
Carl Barks was great, but I was surprised to hear that a lot of stories that became popular in Germany from the 60s through 80s in the "Lustiges Taschenbuch" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Duck_pocket_books) series (usually ca. 200 pages pocket books) were penned in Italy.

They were immensely popular here too. I think well over 250 of them were publised.
When Barks got older, Italian cartoonists took over.
The later ones had excellent colour drawings (from the mid- to late 80s).

Remember the Barks story with the four-cornered eggs? That caused a fuss here. We have three official languages, but this was published when nynorsk and bokmål were the only two. The natives spoke: nynorsk. Scandal!!!!

Liep

Quote from: Norgy on July 15, 2015, 09:56:11 AM
Quote from: Syt on July 15, 2015, 09:16:08 AM
Carl Barks was great, but I was surprised to hear that a lot of stories that became popular in Germany from the 60s through 80s in the "Lustiges Taschenbuch" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Duck_pocket_books) series (usually ca. 200 pages pocket books) were penned in Italy.

They were immensely popular here too. I think well over 250 of them were publised.
When Barks got older, Italian cartoonists took over.
The later ones had excellent colour drawings (from the mid- to late 80s).

Remember the Barks story with the four-cornered eggs? That caused a fuss here. We have three official languages, but this was published when nynorsk and bokmål were the only two. The natives spoke: nynorsk. Scandal!!!!


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The surface is less than a hundred million years old!? How? :blink:
Mountains the size of the Alps made of H2O, what the ...?

http://www.nbcnews.com/science/space/new-horizons-photos-reveal-pluto-ice-mountains-charon-crater-n392691

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New Horizons Photos Show Pluto's Ice Mountains and Charon's Huge Crater

by Alan Boyle and Devin Coldewey


LAUREL, Md. — The first pictures sent back by NASA's New Horizons probe after this week's unprecedented Pluto flyby reveal towering mountains made of frozen water — and a giant dark impact basin on top of its biggest moon, Charon.

The scientists who are leading the team say even they are flummoxed by the images from an icy, alien realm on the edge of the solar system, 3 billion miles (5 billion kilometers) away.

"Who'd have supposed that there are ice mountains?" Johns Hopkins University's Hal Weaver, project scientist for the New Horizons mission, said Wednesday during a news briefing here at JHU's Applied Physics Laboratory.

Principal investigator Alan Stern of the Southwest Research Institute called the findings "balloon-busting."

The images were received overnight and analyzed by the science team at the Applied Physics Laboratory, just hours after the piano-sized New Horizons spacecraft sped past Pluto and its moons at more than 30,000 miles (50,000 kilometers) per hour. The probe came within 7,750 miles (12,500 kilometers) of Pluto's surface, snapping pictures and taking data throughout the encounter. Mission managers said the spacecraft was in good health, and loaded up with so much data that it will take 16 months to download it all.

This first delivery was an auspicious one: The Pluto image showed a small region near the southern end of the dwarf planet's bright, heart-shaped region in 10 times greater detail than previously available. John Spencer, a member of the New Horizons team from the Southwest Research Institute, said the "heart" has been informally named Tombaugh Regio — after Clyde Tombaugh, the American astronomer who discovered Pluto in 1930.

The image showed jagged mountains rising as high as 11,000 feet (3,500 meters) from the surrounding terrain. Even though Pluto is covered with frozen nitrogen and methane, those substances aren't strong enough to build mountains that high, Stern said.

"The bedrock that makes those mountains must be made of H2O, water ice," Stern said. "We see water ice on Pluto for the first time. We can be very sure that the water is there in great abundance."

What's more, the mountainous terrain shown in the image must have been created no more than 100 million years ago — otherwise it would show evidence of more impacts, scientists said. "This is one of the youngest surfaces we've ever seen in the solar system," Jeff Moore, a member of New Horizons' geology, geophysics and imaging team, said in a NASA news release.

The mission's scientists don't know what process created the mountains, but they're sure it's not tidal heating — which drives geological activity on, say, Jupiter's moon Europa. They speculated that radioactive elements embedded in Pluto's mix of rock and ice may be generating enough heat to make Pluto geologically active. "This may cause us to rethink what powers geological activity on many other icy worlds," Spencer said.

The New Horizons team can't yet say whether Pluto has a subsurface reservoir of liquid water — but the results revealed Wednesday certainly don't rule that out.

Nine and a half years after its launch, New Horizons is providing the first detailed look at a world on the solar system's farthest frontier. Before the mission, the best pictures of Pluto were fuzzy images captured by the Hubble Space Telescope. Now the world is getting to know Pluto and its moons as worlds unlike any other.

Another image released Wednesday shows Pluto's moon, Charon, in unprecedented detail. "Charon just blew our socks off," said the mission's deputy project scientist, Cathy Olkin of the Southwest Research Institute.

Olkin said Charon's north pole is dominated by a gigantic impact basin, which has been nicknamed Mordor to pay tribute to the dark land in J.R.R. Tolkien's "Lord of the Rings" trilogy. The picture also shows linear features and troughs circling Charon's surface — including a canyon that's 4 to 6 miles (7 to 10 kilometers) deep.

The image doesn't show as many craters as scientists expected, which suggests that the surface is geologically young and still active, Olkin said.

Another newly released image shows Hydra, one of Pluto's small, irregularly shaped moons. Hydra was discovered in 2005 during the preparations for New Horizons' launch, and the highly pixelated view seen Wednesday's picture is by far the best view ever captured.

Scientists said Hydra is about 27 miles by 20 miles (43 by 33 kilometers), and they were able to determine its composition by analyzing its brightness, mass and dimensions.

"Hydra's surface is probably composed primarily of water ice, and that's cool," Weaver said.

The images unveiled on Wednesday are only the start. Even though New Horizons is now speeding away from Pluto and its moons at tens of thousands of miles per hour, it has saved up billions of bytes worth of data on its solid-state recorders, and will continue to send the signals back at a rate of 1,000 to 2,000 bytes per second — from a distance so vast that it takes 4.5 hours to reach Earth at the speed of light.

After all those pictures and data are sent back, the $728 million New Horizons mission could be extended to accommodate another flyby past an even more distant object in the Kuiper Belt, the region of icy objects beyond the orbit of Neptune. But for now, Stern and his colleagues are enjoying the first flush of discovery.

"I don't think anyone of us could have imagined it would be this good of a toy store," Stern said.

"This is what we came for," Will Grundy, a member of the science team from Lowell Observatory, said in reply.

"This exceeds what we came for," Olkin added.
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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