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Started by Martinus, June 19, 2009, 04:33:36 AM
Quote from: HVC on June 19, 2009, 08:32:35 AMThe Pride Parade might be canceled in Toronto because of an very likely strike by "outside" city workers. Unions hate the gays.
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Quote from: Valmy on June 19, 2009, 08:34:46 AMQuote from: HVC on June 19, 2009, 08:32:35 AMThe Pride Parade might be canceled in Toronto because of an very likely strike by "outside" city workers. Unions hate the gays.Isn't the whole point of the parade to confront homophobia in society? Cancelling it to avoid martyrdom at the hands of homophobes seems rather counter to that.
Quote from: Martinus on June 19, 2009, 04:33:36 AMWARNING: This thread is gay. Alright. People have been complaining about me starting too many gay threads so.... I decided to start this one. I am going to post gay news here (rather than starting a new thread every time I want to post something), in the similar vein as Tamas has a Hungary politics thread.
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on June 19, 2009, 11:21:18 AMtagging threads "gay" & "straight" now?
Quote from: Caliga on June 19, 2009, 05:16:24 AMI like the idea of a [Gay] tag.
Quote from: Martinus on June 19, 2009, 06:29:54 AMLOL did the Warsaw Pride have: impact?
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on June 19, 2009, 02:00:22 PMQuote from: Martinus on June 19, 2009, 06:29:54 AMLOL did the Warsaw Pride have: impact?You know I kind of doubt it. I get the impression that a lot of things do have impact, but that Pride parades tend to be seen as obnoxious and/or only have positive impact on those already sympathetic. The things that really reach out to change minds IMO are the ones that make it seem like gays are just a normal segment of the population composed of regular people. Which really is the case, right? People dancing around like Tim Curry in stockings and a boa acting weird makes it seem like these are alien people that can't be understood. The common human first reaction to "outsiders". And in some cases the parade participants really do some things that are meant to be provocative but only translate into offensiveness to the people who ought to be the ones being provoked (into rethinking their ideas, I mean). For those already sympathetic but not part of the celebration, it's a curiosity, it's interesting, but it doesn't really affect opinion. As a strategy, I think the way Pride parades are generally done is a mistake. Too militant.
Quote from: garbon on June 19, 2009, 02:09:14 PMAgreed, I don't really think pride parades are put on to win hearts. I think they are generally seen as celebrations for the participants, affirming their existence and giving them a chance to celebrate their openness. The ultimate celebration of a transition from fearful, closeted child to showy glitter queen waltzing down main street.
Quote from: Martinus on June 19, 2009, 07:15:43 AMWell, the Archbishop was talking more along the lines of "I don't oppose" than "I support" but it's still quite a big thing, considering it's Poland and the Catholic church. Precisely he said that:"If that is not going to lead to [full marriage] then it is a thing to consider. If this would facilitate such things as [inheritance, or joint taxation], then I would be open to this. As long as it does not enter the area of values, such as broadening the definition of marriage, then I do not oppose such things."
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