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Started by Martinus, April 15, 2015, 12:52:47 AM

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Valmy

Yeah I never got the Asian submissive women thing, the ones I went to school with certainly were not. But then they had been enlightened...er...corrupted by the culture of Amerikkka.
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Josquius

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Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 15, 2015, 03:20:29 PM
Quote from: Tyr on April 15, 2015, 01:57:01 PM
China hasn't helped itself on this one.
Nanjing was horrific, nobody but a select group of idiots, even in Japan, doubts that. But China does lie.
What are you talking about?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanking_Massacre

Quote50,000–300,000 dead (primary sources)[1][2]
40,000–300,000 dead (scholarly consensus)[3]
300,000 dead (Chinese government, scholarly consensus in China)
I would laugh if they weren't making a joke of something that isn't a laughing matter.

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Yeah, fuck you Korea. Why don't you compensate the comfort women you used yourself before trying to shake down the Japanese government for more money.
What are you talking about?

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/11/us-southkorea-usa-military-idUSKBN0FG0VV20140711
http://blogs.wsj.com/korearealtime/2014/07/15/claims-south-korea-provided-sex-slaves-for-u-s-troops-go-to-court/
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jimmy olsen

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Senkakus are definitely Japanese, but Dokdo is just as assuredly Korean.

Koreans do obsess over it out of proportion to what it is though, a rock. However, Japan certainly does not help itself by white washing its actions during the occuption and the war.
China is the real threat to Japan, and the Japanese are sabotaging their own national interests by continuing to provoke Korea in this way.
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jimmy olsen

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EDIT: Shit, clicked quote instead of modify without noticing.  :glare:
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Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 15, 2015, 05:16:17 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 15, 2015, 05:15:46 PM
Senkakus are definitely Japanese, but Dokdo is just as assuredly Korean.

Koreans do obsess over it out of proportion to what it is though, a rock. However, Japan certainly does not help itself by white washing its actions during the occuption and the war.
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Tonitrus

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Japan could have helped itself on this issue long ago by not getting itself onto the losing side of war.  Heck, if they did that, they might still own Sakhalin.

The downside of that, though, is they'd still probably be a pseudo-fascist, emperor-worshipping state.

Neil

I don't think any country can really be mature about its own history.  There's always an emotional component.
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Quote from: Tonitrus on April 15, 2015, 09:40:00 PM
Japan could have helped itself on this issue long ago by not getting itself onto the losing side of war.  Heck, if they did that, they might still own Sakhalin.
Is Sakhalin really that good?

Besides, a Japan that didn't lose WWII would be objectively worse than one that did.  The occupation was a pretty good thing, and the destruction of Imperial Japan allowed them to build a modern Japan that was far better in pretty much every way than the old.
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Tonitrus

Quote from: Neil on April 15, 2015, 09:45:35 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on April 15, 2015, 09:40:00 PM
Japan could have helped itself on this issue long ago by not getting itself onto the losing side of war.  Heck, if they did that, they might still own Sakhalin.
Is Sakhalin really that good?

Besides, a Japan that didn't lose WWII would be objectively worse than one that did.  The occupation was a pretty good thing, and the destruction of Imperial Japan allowed them to build a modern Japan that was far better in pretty much every way than the old.

The resources and extra space would be nice for them.  And probably used far more effectively than in the hands of Russia.

Completely agree on the latter point.

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Quote from: Neil on April 15, 2015, 09:45:35 PM
Besides, a Japan that didn't lose WWII would be objectively worse than one that did.  The occupation was a pretty good thing, and the destruction of Imperial Japan allowed them to build a modern Japan that was far better in pretty much every way than the old.

Not quite every way. Imperial Japan had fewer sex pillows.
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Tonitrus

Quote from: Peter Wiggin on April 15, 2015, 09:48:46 PM
Quote from: Neil on April 15, 2015, 09:45:35 PM
Besides, a Japan that didn't lose WWII would be objectively worse than one that did.  The occupation was a pretty good thing, and the destruction of Imperial Japan allowed them to build a modern Japan that was far better in pretty much every way than the old.

Not quite every way. Imperial Japan had fewer sex pillows.

The Imperials preferred live ones...that is what the controversy in this thread is about.

Monoriu

Quote from: Neil on April 15, 2015, 09:40:53 PM
I don't think any country can really be mature about its own history.  There's always an emotional component.

Germany seems to be able to deal with its past. 

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Quote from: Monoriu on April 15, 2015, 10:03:50 PM
Quote from: Neil on April 15, 2015, 09:40:53 PM
I don't think any country can really be mature about its own history.  There's always an emotional component.

Germany seems to be able to deal with its past.

Also Belgium. I think it has something to do with getting curbstomped.
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Monoriu

Quote from: Valmy on April 15, 2015, 03:25:16 PM
Yeah I never got the Asian submissive women thing, the ones I went to school with certainly were not. But then they had been enlightened...er...corrupted by the culture of Amerikkka.

I know of at least one Asian woman who has absolutely no trace whatsoever of being submissive  :sleep: