GOP isn't the only party with internal issues

[Razgovory]

Religious fundamentalism is not inherently conservative, except on certain social issues.  I've pointed out before that the most fundamentalist President we've ever had was Jimmy Carter (at least since the 19th Century;  Hayes may have been more of a fundamentalist), and President Carter was hardly a hard-right type.

I actually said right-wing not conservative, but what is in your opinion inherently conservative?

[Martinus]

Religious fundamentalism is not inherently conservative, except on certain social issues.  I've pointed out before that the most fundamentalist President we've ever had was Jimmy Carter (at least since the 19th Century;  Hayes may have been more of a fundamentalist), and President Carter was hardly a hard-right type.

I actually said right-wing not conservative, but what is in your opinion inherently conservative?

That makes even less sense. The only inherent right wing attitudes in religious fundamentalism are social conservatism. There isn't anything else inherently right wing there.

dps, perhaps we should stop feeding the troll?

[Martinus]

Terrorism and extremism are certainly a lovely set of values shared by left and right alike.

But religious extremism implies a social conservative agenda typically.

Which just goes to show that the old left vs. right division doesn't really work any more. The real divide is authoritarianism vs. liberty, imho.

[Razgovory]

Religious fundamentalism is not inherently conservative, except on certain social issues.  I've pointed out before that the most fundamentalist President we've ever had was Jimmy Carter (at least since the 19th Century;  Hayes may have been more of a fundamentalist), and President Carter was hardly a hard-right type.

I actually said right-wing not conservative, but what is in your opinion inherently conservative?

That makes even less sense. The only inherent right wing attitudes in religious fundamentalism are social conservatism. There isn't anything else inherently right wing there.

dps, perhaps we should stop feeding the troll?

No, it is not.  Think harder, Marty.

[Valmy]

Terrorism and extremism are certainly a lovely set of values shared by left and right alike.

But religious extremism implies a social conservative agenda typically.

Which just goes to show that the old left vs. right division doesn't really work any more. The real divide is authoritarianism vs. liberty, imho.

Um the old Right vs Left divide comes from the French Revolution.  The left was more Free Market Capitalism than the right was. So I don't get where this definition came to be universally applied everywhere when that was never considered part of it.

[Martinus]

Terrorism and extremism are certainly a lovely set of values shared by left and right alike.

But religious extremism implies a social conservative agenda typically.

Which just goes to show that the old left vs. right division doesn't really work any more. The real divide is authoritarianism vs. liberty, imho.

Um the old Right vs Left divide comes from the French Revolution.  The left was more Free Market Capitalism than the right was. So I don't get where this definition came to be universally applied everywhere when that was never considered part of it.

Even the French revolutionaries weren't right 100% of the time.

[Valmy]

Even the French revolutionaries weren't right 100% of the time.

How dare you! 

Ok seriously though I was just saying the term has always been a non-exact one where the ideologies in question change depending upon the local politics.