Is there a 1st Amendment right to put the rebel battle flag on a license plates?

Started by jimmy olsen, March 24, 2015, 01:56:34 AM

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Martinus

Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 24, 2015, 04:37:33 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on March 24, 2015, 04:31:53 PM
I don't really know what Marty was talking about.

Some baker refused to bake a cake for two dykes IIRC.

Yup and they sued her to the tune of $150,000

Admiral Yi

Quote from: Martinus on March 24, 2015, 04:46:16 PM
Yup and they sued her to the tune of $150,000

Baker was a chick?  They should have just chick-raped her.

grumbler

Quote from: Peter Wiggin on March 24, 2015, 03:42:51 PM
That's clearly false.

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I'm not arguing the issue one way or another (I mean, I could point out the obvious, but what would be the fun of that?  :lol:)

I'm just preserving such a spectacularly stupid statement so Raz can't delete it and claim he never wrote it. 
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jimmy olsen

Quote from: Capetan Mihali on March 24, 2015, 10:31:18 AM
I know nothing about this case and didn't read the article.  But thanks to my prestigious law school education, I can inform you that there is a 1st Amendment right to *not* display 'LIVE FREE OR DIE' on your license plate if you're a Jehovah's Witness in New Hampshire.  As cool, gnarly, and authentically American a slogan as it may be, not letting the JWs cover it up when it doesn't impede the purpose of the license plate is too closed to forced speech. :(

That case is mentioned in the article, read it!  :mad:
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Razgovory

Quote from: grumbler on March 24, 2015, 04:50:50 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on March 24, 2015, 03:42:51 PM
That's clearly false.

QuoteThe group emerged from the Bible Student movement, founded in the late 1870s by Charles Taze Russell with the formation of Zion's Watch Tower Tract Society, with significant organizational and doctrinal changes under the leadership of Joseph Franklin Rutherford.[10][11] The name Jehovah's witnesses[12] was adopted in 1931 to distinguish themselves from other Bible Student groups and symbolize a break with the legacy of Russell's traditions.
I'm not arguing the issue one way or another (I mean, I could point out the obvious, but what would be the fun of that?  :lol: )

I'm just preserving such a spectacularly stupid statement so Raz can't delete it and claim he never wrote it.

Why would I delete it?  You've granted my the right to the last word.  I imagine you thought this some sort of punishment, but I have a lot of fun with it.
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grumbler

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grumbler

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Ed Anger

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grumbler

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The Brain

Quote from: Ed Anger on March 24, 2015, 05:27:08 PM
Me and honey kitten were defecating on each other's chest, while dreaming of a glorious new confederacy filled with glorious white children shitting on each other. Squee! I exclaimed in delight as I smeared a turd of the south on her glorious milky breasts.....

You and Lettow should talk! :w00t:
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Razgovory

Quote from: Martinus on March 24, 2015, 04:46:16 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 24, 2015, 04:37:33 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on March 24, 2015, 04:31:53 PM
I don't really know what Marty was talking about.

Some baker refused to bake a cake for two dykes IIRC.

Yup and they sued her to the tune of $150,000

Well I guess the government shouldn't get into the gay cake business then.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Berkut

Quote from: Martinus on March 24, 2015, 04:04:57 PM
If they don't want people to print stuff the government does not like on their plates, then they should not allow people to print anything.

Well, I think they can probably come up with some sort of objective criteria that balances state interests with 1st Amendment rights, but they need to have such a criteria in place, and be able to defend it, rather than "Print what you want, but we might say no. Or yes. Hard to say, really..."

But otherwise they are left with untenable choices - they cannot say "Print anything!" because that will certainly result in someone asking that something be printed that will result in the entire program being shut down.

And they cannot refuse to print things in an arbitrary manner, because that opens them up to hypotheticals like "What if someone says 'Go Republicans' is ok and "Go Democrats' is not?"
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Caliga

How about just going with "print nothing"?

I mean, people can clutter the back of their car with all sorts of fucking bumper stickers saying they love the Confederacy, Baby on Board, Honk If You're Horny, etc.  Why must they have a special little license plate too?  Back in the day you couldn't do that shit to your license plate and the world didn't end. :hmm:
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