California only has about one year’s supply of water left

Started by jimmy olsen, March 18, 2015, 12:17:07 AM

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jimmy olsen

Quote from: alfred russel on April 01, 2015, 10:48:24 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 01, 2015, 06:20:27 PM
Way too late to matter.


If half of your predictions of doom came to pass, we would be living mad max style by now.

I grew up in a section of southwest florida that consisted of drained swampland that was only about 6 feet above the water table and the groundwater was unsafe. There was a serious shortage of water, water restrictions, and tap water was not potable.

There were lots of dire predictions about what would happen as the area continued to develop (or even if the current population was sustainable). Today, there are far more people, the water restrictions are analogous to what they were when I was a kid, and the tap water is now potable.
And in 50 years it will be completely underwater due to sea level rise.
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Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 02, 2015, 01:06:50 AMAnd in 50 years it will be completely underwater due to sea level rise.

Water problem: solved.
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Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 02, 2015, 01:06:50 AM
And in 50 years it will be completely underwater due to sea level rise.

Another prediction of disaster from Tim!

I seriously doubt it will be under water in 50 years. My home growing up was very low lying because it was a drained off swamp, but it was 20 miles from the coast. It doesn't seem likely that the coastline is, starting today, going to encroach inland at a rate of 0.4 miles a year.
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...meanwhile we've had up to seven inches of rain over the last 24 hours. :wacko:  Most area schools are closed or delayed today because so many roads are flooded out.
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Quote from: Caliga on April 03, 2015, 05:34:06 AM
...meanwhile we've had up to seven inches of rain over the last 24 hours. :wacko:  Most area schools are closed or delayed today because so many roads are flooded out.

Kentucky is moist right now. And smells like wet dog.
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Quote from: Caliga on April 03, 2015, 05:34:06 AM
...meanwhile we've had up to seven inches of rain over the last 24 hours. :wacko:  Most area schools are closed or delayed today because so many roads are flooded out.

Send some rain water of that to California....

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Californians can have our rainwater but they have to come get it.  And pay cash :contract:
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Quote from: KRonn on April 03, 2015, 08:28:37 AM
Quote from: Caliga on April 03, 2015, 05:34:06 AM
...meanwhile we've had up to seven inches of rain over the last 24 hours. :wacko:  Most area schools are closed or delayed today because so many roads are flooded out.

Send some rain water of that to California....
they need to build pipelines accross the US to get water to California ;)
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Quote from: lustindarkness on March 18, 2015, 05:44:09 PM
The problem is not lack of water, just too many people, a well placed nuke would fix the problem, for a while at least.
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Quote from: lustindarkness on April 03, 2015, 10:47:15 AM
Quote from: lustindarkness on March 18, 2015, 05:44:09 PM
The problem is not lack of water, just too many people, a well placed nuke would fix the problem, for a while at least.
wouldn't the water be contaminated then?  Maybe napalm would be better.  It does the job, but it does not contaminate.
However, we need to circumvent the bombable areas.  Napa valley is out of the question.  Anywhere they produce wine can't be touched.  We can't bomb Hollywood, we'll miss on all of these great movies like Sharknado 1-2-3.  Ok, let me rephrase that.  Actually, forget I said anything about Hollywood. Firebomb everything but the places they produce wine.
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jimmy olsen

Fine them $20 million for every year!  :mad:

http://news.yahoo.com/arrowheads-permit-pump-california-spring-water-expired-decades-201003194.html
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Nestle Has Illegally Pumped Calif. Water Since the Last Major Drought—and Doesn't Want to Stop

By Willy Blackmore | Takepart.com
4 hours ago

In the late 1800s, a couple of enterprising businessmen decided to make a lake in the San Bernardino Mountains east of Los Angeles. The forest was cleared, dams were built, and eventually the creeks, streams, rainfall, and snowmelt from the surrounding mountains began to fill up Little Bear Valley, creating Lake Arrowhead.

Best known as a vacation destination today, the water in the lake remains privately owned, a legacy of the Arrowhead Reservoir Company's original plan for the 48,000 acre-feet of water: to sell it to towns in the arid valleys below.

Arrowhead Mountain Spring Water officially takes its name from a rock formation in the San Bernardino Mountains. But news that the company, which is owned by the food giant Nestle, has been pumping spring water out of the San Bernardino National Forest under a permit that expired in 1988 puts the brand more in line with the historic water grab of Lake Arrowhead than any geological feature.

The Palm Springs, California-based Desert Sun reported last Wednesday that Nestle has been pumping water out of the underground spring that feeds Strawberry Creek and transferring it by pipeline out of the National Forest on an expired permit for nearly 30 years. H2O from another spring-fed source that is eventually bottled and sold with an Arrowhead label on it has been transported across the National Forest under yet another expired permit since 1994. Conservationists say the reduced water flow in the creeks, especially after a dry winter, threatens the riparian habitats and the wildlife they support.

More than 135,000 people have signed a petition calling on Nestle to stop bottling and selling California's increasingly scarce water. Arrowhead is not the only company tapping California's springs—Mother Jones reports that many of the country's bottled-water companies get their product from the drought-plagued Golden State.

The Strawberry Creek permit expired in the midst of a drought, which ran from 1987 to 1992, and the state was excessively dry again in the early 2000s. California's current drought—by some measures the worst in 1,200 years—is now entering its fourth year. The severity of this dry spell led Gov. Jerry Brown to call for 25-percent reductions in urban water use.

"Now that it has been brought to my attention that the Nestle permit has been expired for so long, on top of the drought...it has gone to the top of the pile in terms of a program of work for our folks to work on," Jody Noiron, the San Bernardino National Forest supervisor, told the Sun.

Nestle says it draws a negligible amount of water from the spring—just 705 million gallons a year, or enough to water two golf courses for a year, as the company said in a statement. To put that in context, scientists at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory estimate that California needs 11 trillion gallons of rain to end the drought.

No, Arrowhead is not the new almond—some water-sucking scapegoat or boogeyman to lay blame on instead of grappling with the complexities of climate change, water use and management, and conservation efforts. Nestle's CEO Peter Brabeck may have a penchant for privatizing water resources, but the pipelines running from Strawberry Creek didn't cause the drought.

But consider that, as the Sun investigation found, no state agency has an accurate grasp on how much water California's 108 bottling plants use. Bottling companies are required to test water but not to report how much water is being bottled. Like Little Bear Valley slowly filling up with water, a natural resource trickling into a commodity—or the Owens Valley being drained dry to keep Los Angeles showers and sprinklers running—the expired Arrowhead permit is a symptom of a relationship with the climate that expects it to give well past its ability to do so.

California can't afford to sell its water to consumers in other wetter states—just as it can't afford to keep watering its expansive lawns or farm in ways that the market demands instead of what the rainfall dictates.
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Unleash les enragés on these water hoarding bastards! Nous sommes trahis!
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