The weaker sex

[Valmy]

If you can, you probably should.  As RH notes, boys who are born later in the year and aren't held back until they are 5 1/2 or older tend to do poorly compared to peers.  By far the best time to hold them back is before they start.

Thanks.  I think that is best.

[The Brain]

I think society's job is to provide for equality of outcome across all different parameters that make up a person.

[Valmy]

I think society's job is to provide for equality of outcome across all different parameters that make up a person.

All children must be above average!

[Richard Hakluyt]

Make the pie higher!

[Syt]

Question grumbler: you claim that boys are 6 months behind girls developmentally.  Would it be a good idea to start a boy a year later then?  Not a theoretical question here, I have two boys.

I was sent to school half a year early, and was the youngest in class for 13 years. AND LOOK WHAT A WELL ADJUSTED HUMAN BEING I'VE BECOME

[Valmy]

Question grumbler: you claim that boys are 6 months behind girls developmentally.  Would it be a good idea to start a boy a year later then?  Not a theoretical question here, I have two boys.

I was sent to school half a year early, and was the youngest in class for 13 years. AND LOOK WHAT A WELL ADJUSTED HUMAN BEING I'VE BECOME

[derspiess]

That's been all the rage lately with the hypercompetitive parenting set.  Not for academics, but sports.  My brother-in-law's brother did it with his two boys.

I've heard of that as well.  Seems bizarre to me-- when I was a kid there was a sort of stigma attached to kids that had been held back.

[CountDeMoney]

That's been all the rage lately with the hypercompetitive parenting set.  Not for academics, but sports.  My brother-in-law's brother did it with his two boys.

I've heard of that as well.  Seems bizarre to me-- when I was a kid there was a sort of stigma attached to kids that had been held back.

No joke, right?  When we were growing up, a kid was held back a year, it was because he was either slow or a convict, and you either goofed on him or feared him.  Now he's a redshirt.

[Valmy]

That's been all the rage lately with the hypercompetitive parenting set.  Not for academics, but sports.  My brother-in-law's brother did it with his two boys.

I've heard of that as well.  Seems bizarre to me-- when I was a kid there was a sort of stigma attached to kids that had been held back.

My sister was held back.  There was no stigma, nobody even knew.  Why would they?  Why would anybody know or care if my kid enters Kindergarten a little later?  We are not talking about repeating grades here.

[Ed Anger]

That's been all the rage lately with the hypercompetitive parenting set.  Not for academics, but sports.  My brother-in-law's brother did it with his two boys.

I've heard of that as well.  Seems bizarre to me-- when I was a kid there was a sort of stigma attached to kids that had been held back.

No joke, right?  When we were growing up, a kid was held back a year, it was because he was either slow or a convict, and you either goofed on him or feared him.  Now he's a redshirt.

Cardale Jones of the Kindergarden set.

[Ed Anger]

My kids will enter school as soon as their age permits. I NEED 6 HOURS OF PEACE

[Valmy]

My kids will enter school as soon as their age permits. I NEED 6 HOURS OF PEACE

Yeah, the counterbalance to this plan for me is another year of paying for daycare

[Ed Anger]

My kids will enter school as soon as their age permits. I NEED 6 HOURS OF PEACE

Yeah, the counterbalance to this plan for me is another year of paying for daycare

Fuck, I have to pay 420/mo for KINDERGARDEN. YOU FUCKS GET ENOUGH IN PROPERTY TAXES

[derspiess]

One of my close circle of friends in the elementary school years was about a year older than the rest of us and we suspected he was held back at some point.  Then one day one of us found out he had been held back in Kindergarten and it was a huge scandal.  You don't want the stigma of "failing Kindergarten" hanging over your head, whether or not that's exactly what happened.

In his case I think it was something like he wasn't emotionally mature enough to handle Kindergarten (he was rather spoiled and never seemed to keep his shit together if he didn't get his own way) so after a couple weeks his mom pulled him out and put him in the next year.  But as kids we didn't make any distinctions-- held back = flunking an entire grade year in our minds.  Up until that point we regarded him as one of the smarter kids in our group.  He was in TAG and all that.  But once we found out he was a grade year older than us (I think a year and a half in my case) all that seemed to be built on lies.

We all eventually accepted it, but if he pissed someone off inside our group they were quick to remind him he "flunked Kindergarten".  Now if an outsider gave him shit over it, we'd circle the wagons and defend him.  That's just how we rolled.

[Ed Anger]

Sounded like he needed to get one of your group alone and beat the shit out of 'em. That is how I rolled.