Railroads Want One-Man Crews on Freight Trains Hauling Hazardous Materials

Started by jimmy olsen, February 20, 2015, 10:37:40 AM

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mongers

Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 20, 2015, 10:43:20 AM
If the conductor's only real job is to make sure the engineer is awake then maybe they can find some people willing to do the job for less than 55K a year.

Thats a quite toxic view you've got there, that someone doesn't deserve a little over the average wage for a potential rather responsible job, yet it's ok for a pointy head working for a hedge fund to earn hundreds of thousands of dollars a year.

Next you'll be telling us co-pilots on airliners are only there to keep pilots awake.
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Quote from: mongers on February 20, 2015, 02:07:52 PM
Next you'll be telling us co-pilots on airliners are only there to keep pilots awake.

Don't stop there:  you have to tell Yi why he is telling us what you are insisting he will tell us next.  He can't persuasively follow your directions without some sort of idea of his own motives.
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CountDeMoney

Quote from: grumbler on February 20, 2015, 02:10:18 PM
Quote from: mongers on February 20, 2015, 02:07:52 PM
Next you'll be telling us co-pilots on airliners are only there to keep pilots awake.

Don't stop there:  you have to tell Yi why he is telling us what you are insisting he will tell us next.  He can't persuasively follow your directions without some sort of idea of his own motives.

Teachers are just there to keep the students awake.

mongers

Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 20, 2015, 02:17:19 PM
Quote from: grumbler on February 20, 2015, 02:10:18 PM
Quote from: mongers on February 20, 2015, 02:07:52 PM
Next you'll be telling us co-pilots on airliners are only there to keep pilots awake.

Don't stop there:  you have to tell Yi why he is telling us what you are insisting he will tell us next.  He can't persuasively follow your directions without some sort of idea of his own motives.

Teachers are just there to keep the students awake.

Shush, if they creep out of the wrong and don't wake them, they can just head to the unemployment lines and the government will save a whole lot more dollars.
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Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 20, 2015, 02:17:19 PM
Quote from: grumbler on February 20, 2015, 02:10:18 PM
Quote from: mongers on February 20, 2015, 02:07:52 PM
Next you'll be telling us co-pilots on airliners are only there to keep pilots awake.

Don't stop there:  you have to tell Yi why he is telling us what you are insisting he will tell us next.  He can't persuasively follow your directions without some sort of idea of his own motives.

Teachers are just there to keep the students awake.

I remember my 10th grade biology teacher did a terrible job at keeping me awake. I took some great naps in that class.
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Tonitrus

Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 20, 2015, 02:17:19 PM
Quote from: grumbler on February 20, 2015, 02:10:18 PM
Quote from: mongers on February 20, 2015, 02:07:52 PM
Next you'll be telling us co-pilots on airliners are only there to keep pilots awake.

Don't stop there:  you have to tell Yi why he is telling us what you are insisting he will tell us next.  He can't persuasively follow your directions without some sort of idea of his own motives.

Teachers are just there to keep the students awake.

Pimps are just there to keep the Ho's awake.

This logic is endless!


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I don't know what the right answer is as far as how many crew you need on a train at minimum, but I am confident that asking the union what that number is won't get you an answer that is informed by anything other than their desire to save jobs.
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grumbler

Quote from: Berkut on February 20, 2015, 02:34:39 PM
I don't know what the right answer is as far as how many crew you need on a train at minimum, but I am confident that asking the union what that number is won't get you an answer that is informed by anything other than their desire to save jobs.

True.  The company has some consideration of the downsides to downsizing (since they would be the pones paying for the consequences of increased accidents), but I'd not take their naked word, either (since the individual wanting to cut costs might not even have the company's interests in mind).  I'd still trust the company spokesman over the union one on an issue like this.  I'd be the reverse on a worker safety issue.
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