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Started by Siege, February 05, 2015, 11:50:14 AM

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Which political ideas do you sympathyse with?

Red Communist Party - Command economy
7 (19.4%)
Pink Socialist - Democrat Left (Obama, Kerry, Carter) - Welfare State
14 (38.9%)
Democrat Center (Clintons, LBJ) - Big Goverment
5 (13.9%)
Republican establishment- Big Goverment  (Bushes, Romney, McCain)
2 (5.6%)
Constitutional Conservative - Tea Party - small goverment (Reagan, Cruz, Goldwater)
8 (22.2%)

Total Members Voted: 35

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derspiess

#15
February 05, 2015, 12:14:19 PM
Quote from: garbon on February 05, 2015, 12:10:52 PM
I've no idea how to vote in this poll.

You are obviously GOP Establishment.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

11B4V

#16
February 05, 2015, 12:14:23 PM
Quote from: garbon on February 05, 2015, 12:10:52 PM
I've no idea how to vote in this poll.

That's because a second grader put this poll together.
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

derspiess

#17
February 05, 2015, 12:16:29 PM
Quote from: frunk on February 05, 2015, 12:11:39 PM
Yeah, I don't get the Reagan love amongst the small government crowd.  I suppose he was the last Republican president who was really charismatic, but that seems like a pretty thin criteria.

He made volumes of speeches from the 60s onward advocating small government.  He continued with that rhetoric through his presidency.  Obviously as pragmatic as he was he had to compromise on some of those principles to get things done.  You're not going to get ideological purity out of any president these days (if ever?).
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Razgovory

#18
February 05, 2015, 12:18:16 PM
Quote from: Siege on February 05, 2015, 11:52:08 AM
What?

Its not biased...

Where does George Wallace show up?  Strom Thurmond? Ron Paul?
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Razgovory

#19
February 05, 2015, 12:20:11 PM
Quote from: derspiess on February 05, 2015, 12:16:29 PM
Quote from: frunk on February 05, 2015, 12:11:39 PM
Yeah, I don't get the Reagan love amongst the small government crowd.  I suppose he was the last Republican president who was really charismatic, but that seems like a pretty thin criteria.

He made volumes of speeches from the 60s onward advocating small government.  He continued with that rhetoric through his presidency.  Obviously as pragmatic as he was he had to compromise on some of those principles to get things done.  You're not going to get ideological purity out of any president these days (if ever?).

Or maybe the small government this was just bullshit.  Politicians are known to do that.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

derspiess

#20
February 05, 2015, 12:21:47 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on February 05, 2015, 12:18:16 PM
Where does George Wallace show up?

Democrat Center

QuoteStrom Thurmond?

Demoncrat Center, then Republican establishment.

QuoteRon Paul?

Constitutional Consoivative.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Admiral Yi

#21
February 05, 2015, 12:22:13 PM
Quote from: derspiess on February 05, 2015, 12:16:29 PM
He made volumes of speeches from the 60s onward advocating small government.  He continued with that rhetoric through his presidency.  Obviously as pragmatic as he was he had to compromise on some of those principles to get things done.  You're not going to get ideological purity out of any president these days (if ever?).

He oversaw a massive expansion of the military.  That wasn't a compromise, that was his main deal.

11B4V

#22
February 05, 2015, 12:25:38 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on February 05, 2015, 12:18:16 PM
Quote from: Siege on February 05, 2015, 11:52:08 AM
What?

Its not biased...

Where does George Wallace show up?  Strom Thurmond? Ron Paul?

George Wallace: Racist

Strom Thurmond: Bigot and doinked the help.

Ron Paul: Lunatic

"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

Jacob

#23
February 05, 2015, 12:26:35 PM
Where does Angela Merkel, Tony Blair, Olaf Palme, Dilma Rouseff, Xi Jinping, Deng Xiaoping, and Alex Salmond show up on that scale?

Razgovory

#24
February 05, 2015, 12:27:48 PM
Yeah, no.  Try again.  If Wallace a centrist democrat he would have been with LBJ.  The political party he formed merged with Constitution party.  So he was further right then Reagan and Goldwater.  Strom Thurmond became a major Reagan ally.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

derspiess

#25
February 05, 2015, 12:28:04 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 05, 2015, 12:22:13 PM
He oversaw a massive expansion of the military.  That wasn't a compromise, that was his main deal.

Well, duh.  We also had to be the Russians.  We all signed on for that.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Barrister

#26
February 05, 2015, 12:28:29 PM
Quote from: Jacob on February 05, 2015, 12:26:35 PM
Where does Angela Merkel, Tony Blair, Olaf Palme, Dilma Rouseff, Xi Jinping, Deng Xiaoping, and Alex Salmond show up on that scale?

Foreigners, and thus "null vote".
Posts here are my own private opinions.  I do not speak for my employer.

CountDeMoney

#27
February 05, 2015, 12:28:48 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 05, 2015, 12:22:13 PM
Quote from: derspiess on February 05, 2015, 12:16:29 PM
He made volumes of speeches from the 60s onward advocating small government.  He continued with that rhetoric through his presidency.  Obviously as pragmatic as he was he had to compromise on some of those principles to get things done.  You're not going to get ideological purity out of any president these days (if ever?).

He oversaw a massive expansion of the military.  That wasn't a compromise, that was his main deal.

That's the thing with "small government" conservatives:  the DoD never counts.

Razgovory

#28
February 05, 2015, 12:30:52 PM
Quote from: derspiess on February 05, 2015, 12:28:04 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 05, 2015, 12:22:13 PM
He oversaw a massive expansion of the military.  That wasn't a compromise, that was his main deal.

Well, duh.  We also had to be the Russians.  We all signed on for that.

Small government is incompatible with the cold war.  If he believed we had to compete with the Russians militarily then he can't be small government.  If he says we need to do both he's either dumb or a liar.  Since he focused on one and not the other I'd suggest it's the second one.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

derspiess

#29
February 05, 2015, 12:31:52 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on February 05, 2015, 12:27:48 PM
Yeah, no.  Try again.

No.

QuoteIf Wallace a centrist democrat he would have been with LBJ.

Not all centrists have to agree with each other. 

QuoteThe political party he formed merged with Constitution party.  So he was further right then Reagan and Goldwater. 

Yep, then he became conciliatory and whatnot.  On balance he was a mainstream Demoncrat.  Just like good ol' ROBERT BYRD.

QuoteStrom Thurmond became a major Reagan ally.

Yep.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall
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