Anthem, Major Health Insurer, Suffers Hack Attack

[garbon]

They definitely dressed as sluts, I agree.

Has it been shown that wearing a longer skirt actually prevents rape?

[The Brain]

They definitely dressed as sluts, I agree.

Has it been shown that wearing a longer skirt actually prevents rape?

You're asking for a friend?

[garbon]

I only wear long skirts in winter.

[dps]

Don't even know why this is news anymore, actually.  Companies are not held accountable: not by the public, not by government, not even by their shareholders.

How would you like the government to hold them responsible?

Fines.

Seems fair if they are found to not have taken reasonable prevention measures. After all, they are asking to use gov't resources to find the perpetrators.

Same as someone who leaves their car unlocked and then it gets stolen--they're still going to report the theft and hope the cops catch he thieves and get their car back.  We don't fine them for having left it unlocked (not that locking it would stop anyone who knows what they're doing from being able to steal it anyway).

[garbon]

Don't even know why this is news anymore, actually.  Companies are not held accountable: not by the public, not by government, not even by their shareholders.

How would you like the government to hold them responsible?

Fines.

Seems fair if they are found to not have taken reasonable prevention measures. After all, they are asking to use gov't resources to find the perpetrators.

Same as someone who leaves their car unlocked and then it gets stolen--they're still going to report the theft and hope the cops catch he thieves and get their car back.  We don't fine them for having left it unlocked (not that locking it would stop anyone who knows what they're doing from being able to steal it anyway).

Well thanks for demolishing your own argument.

[dps]

There's nothing you can really do to keep a professional from stealing your car off of a parking lot if he wants it badly enough.  But locking is still an appropriate security measure--it at least at least helps to deter the amateurs a bit.

[garbon]

There's nothing you can really do to keep a professional from stealing your car off of a parking lot if he wants it badly enough.  But locking is still an appropriate security measure--it at least at least helps to deter the amateurs a bit.

We seem to have increasingly companies not taken measures that could prevent a lot of these instances but perhaps aren't doing so because of the cost. Maybe it is just rosy memories (and poorer reporting previously) but it feels like all the time now I get notices of how my personal info has been leaked or stolen.

This seems a rather big issue given that it is personal information and in this most recent example something that you pretty much need to have in the US (health insurance) as opposed to say a credit card. Given the importance / impact this could have on the general public, it seems like the gov't ought to do something if major corporations are not.

All that said, perhaps major corporations are taking all of the reasonable precautions that are needed and this really just is the work of professionals who will get in no matter what.

[frunk]

I think a better analogy would be to say that these are companies that are making cars that don't have locks (or have defective locks), not that it is users of the cars not locking (which can also happen, but will typically result in small data breaches).

[The Brain]

Companies won't realistically be able to protect themselves against "a very sophisticated attack" when it comes to systems that cannot be completely isolated.

[garbon]

Companies won't realistically be able to protect themselves against "a very sophisticated attack" when it comes to systems that cannot be completely isolated.

Do you think a company spokesperson would say an attack wasn't "sophisticated"?

[The Brain]

Companies won't realistically be able to protect themselves against "a very sophisticated attack" when it comes to systems that cannot be completely isolated.

Do you think a company spokesperson would say an attack wasn't "sophisticated"?

What does it matter?

[garbon]

Companies won't realistically be able to protect themselves against "a very sophisticated attack" when it comes to systems that cannot be completely isolated.

Do you think a company spokesperson would say an attack wasn't "sophisticated"?

What does it matter?

Your statement is irrelevant if most of the attacks aren't actually very sophisticated.

[dps]

Companies won't realistically be able to protect themselves against "a very sophisticated attack" when it comes to systems that cannot be completely isolated.

Do you think a company spokesperson would say an attack wasn't "sophisticated"?

"Our security precautions are so lacking, a rank amateur using a 386 and a 28K external modem could completely steal all of our data in about 60 seconds."  Yeah, not something they are going to say.

OTOH, I don't really know enough about cybersecurity to know what precautions are and aren't reasonable (beyond really basic things like "Don't use "PASSWORD" as your password"), nor how hard or easy even good security is to get around.

[Siege]

Fucking Garbon sucks at thread naming even worst than Jacob.
And that's saying a lot.

[garbon]

Fucking Garbon sucks at thread naming even worst than Jacob.
And that's saying a lot.

If you take issue with the headline, you can take it up with Pete Williams of NBC News.