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RIP King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia

Started by Caliga, January 22, 2015, 07:16:34 PM

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Martinus

Quote from: Monoriu on January 28, 2015, 10:44:08 PM
I don't really care if the Saudis get what they want.  That is not my concern.  My concern is if I get what I want, which is stable sources of energy at a reasonable price.  If the Saudis happen to fulfill that need, we have a deal.  That's what is happening and I don't see what the problem is.

That, and unblocked streets.

Eddie Teach

Quote from: Martinus on January 29, 2015, 01:38:45 AM
The nuclear program and the government sanctioned hostage taking are all actions taken because of hostility with America - I doubt Iran would be engaging in those (especially against the West) if it was a Western ally.

It was a Western ally, that was the problem.
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Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 28, 2015, 10:05:34 AM
Quote from: Zanza on January 28, 2015, 02:19:08 AM
Iran is more hostile towards Israel and the United States,

FYP.

Quotebut for the rest of the West, Saudi Arabia seems to be a much more potent sponsor or at least origin of terrorism.

I suppose you missed the 1980s and most of the 1990s then.
Guess you missed everything that's happened since 1998 then.
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Solmyr

Quote from: Martinus on January 29, 2015, 01:38:45 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on January 28, 2015, 10:31:42 PM
Quote from: Zanza on January 28, 2015, 02:19:08 AM
What exactly makes the theocracy in Iran so much worse than the theocracy in Saudi Arabia?

That it's a theocracy and not an oligarchy run by mostly religiously observant people. Also, the nuclear program. And the government sanctioned hostage taking- we haven't forgotten.

The nuclear program and the government sanctioned hostage taking are all actions taken because of hostility with America - I doubt Iran would be engaging in those (especially against the West) if it was a Western ally.

At the moment though, Iran is allying with Russia.

grumbler

Quote from: Peter Wiggin on January 28, 2015, 10:31:42 PM
... And the government sanctioned hostage taking- we haven't forgotten.

yeah, what was that called... extraordinary rendition?
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grumbler

Quote from: Martinus on January 29, 2015, 01:38:45 AM
The nuclear program and the government sanctioned hostage taking are all actions taken because of hostility with America - I doubt Iran would be engaging in those (especially against the West) if it was a Western ally.

Not so.  Iran's nuclear program is aimed at Israel, not the US.  Its support for Hezbollah (and the "hostage"-taking) are aimed at the Christians and Sunnis in the Middle East. Even as a "western ally" Iran would be engaged in those activities to some degree.  Hell, the nuclear program started under the Shah.
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CountDeMoney

Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 29, 2015, 02:01:13 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 28, 2015, 10:05:34 AM
Quote from: Zanza on January 28, 2015, 02:19:08 AM
Iran is more hostile towards Israel and the United States,

FYP.

Quotebut for the rest of the West, Saudi Arabia seems to be a much more potent sponsor or at least origin of terrorism.

I suppose you missed the 1980s and most of the 1990s then.
Guess you missed everything that's happened since 1998 then.

I'm rubber you're glue, so there, nyah nyah nyah.

Fuck off and die in an industrial rickshaw accident, you fucking assfuck. 

frunk

Quote from: Valmy on January 28, 2015, 11:00:52 PM
Oil is generally used for fuel, not electricity, so is generally not in competition with those things.  Unless we are talking about electric vehicles.  I mean I doubt there are any of steam powered trains out there using coal.

I mean oil is used for electricity, about 5% of the worlds electricity is generated with oil, but this is not a very economical use of petroleum.

It is generally not in competition because the oil fuel cost was generally too high to make it efficient unless the plant had other advantages (being close to the source of the oil).  Long term cheap oil could change that equation, but it would have to be long term and not just a couple of years.

Siege

Quote from: Martinus on January 28, 2015, 04:40:45 PM
I can't believe the motherfucking Republicans are shitting on Michelle for that.

I think she did the right thing.

When Obama did the opposite and bowed, they also shat on him. I bet if Michelle wore a headscarf these fucks would conclude the Obamas are Muslim after all.

What a bunch of fucking faggots.

I thought I had convincinly proven Barack Hussein Obama is a muslim in that other thread....


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Martinus

By the way, it's a good thing that Riyadh is not on the other side of the world, unlike Paris. Otherwise, it would probably be very difficult to get all those high ranking US officials to the funeral at such a short notice.

jimmy olsen

Quote from: Martinus on January 30, 2015, 02:27:58 AM
By the way, it's a good thing that Riyadh is not on the other side of the world, unlike Paris. Otherwise, it would probably be very difficult to get all those high ranking US officials to the funeral at such a short notice.

I see what you did there. :lol:
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Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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Jacob

Quote from: Martinus on January 28, 2015, 04:40:45 PM
I can't believe the motherfucking Republicans are shitting on Michelle for that.

I think she did the right thing.

When Obama did the opposite and bowed, they also shat on him. I bet if Michelle wore a headscarf these fucks would conclude the Obamas are Muslim after all.

Of course she shouldn't wear a headscarf.

Normal protocol in all of these places is for women to wear what they normally wear. No visiting female dignitaries wear headscarves, and no Saudis were offended except possibly a few Siegy-equivalents on the internet.

That was 100% a manufactured storm in a teacup.

derspiess

Quote from: Jacob on January 30, 2015, 11:44:15 AM
Of course she shouldn't wear a headscarf.

Normal protocol in all of these places is for women to wear what they normally wear. No visiting female dignitaries wear headscarves, and no Saudis were offended except possibly a few Siegy-equivalents on the internet.

That was 100% a manufactured storm in a teacup.

My earlier troll aside, I don't give a shit.  But apparently Saudis are pissed about it, claiming she covered her head in Indonesia but not in Saudi Arabia.  And apparently her face was blurred on Saudi TV.
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grumbler

Quote from: derspiess on January 30, 2015, 12:32:36 PM
... But apparently Saudis are pissed about it, claiming she covered her head in Indonesia but not in Saudi Arabia.  And apparently her face was blurred on Saudi TV.

Is this "apparently" like the "apparently Obama wasn't born in the US," or is there some evidence behind the Republican inanity this time?
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Razgovory

Quote from: Siege on January 29, 2015, 10:00:04 AM
Quote from: Martinus on January 28, 2015, 04:40:45 PM
I can't believe the motherfucking Republicans are shitting on Michelle for that.

I think she did the right thing.

When Obama did the opposite and bowed, they also shat on him. I bet if Michelle wore a headscarf these fucks would conclude the Obamas are Muslim after all.

What a bunch of fucking faggots.

I thought I had convincinly proven Barack Hussein Obama is a muslim in that other thread....

You haven't even convincingly proven that you are a Jew.
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