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Started by Syt, March 16, 2009, 01:52:42 AM

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Admiral Yi

Was inspired by watching Bored to Death (surprising acting ability demonstrated by Ted Danson) to pick up a brace of Raymond Chandler books, also a history of the War of the Roses.

Was William of Normandy the founder of the Plantagenat line?

dps


crazy canuck

Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 15, 2016, 04:54:23 PM
Was inspired by watching Bored to Death (surprising acting ability demonstrated by Ted Danson) to pick up a brace of Raymond Chandler books, also a history of the War of the Roses.

Was William of Normandy the founder of the Plantagenat line?

You need the History of England podcast.


It is very good.  And as a bonus he is just finishing the time period you are most interested in.



http://historyofengland.typepad.com/

Sheilbh

Let's bomb Russia!

Gups

Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 15, 2016, 04:54:23 PM
Was inspired by watching Bored to Death (surprising acting ability demonstrated by Ted Danson) to pick up a brace of Raymond Chandler books, also a history of the War of the Roses.

Was William of Normandy the founder of the Plantagenat line?

Henry Ii

Queequeg

Anyone know any good books about Sub-Saharan Africa + Ethiopia from around 1965-2000? I'm interested in anything looking at the collapse of post-Colonial administrations and rose of figures like Kagame. I just finished We  Wish to Inform You That Tomorrow We Will Be Killed With Our Families and it was mind blowing.
Quote from: PDH on April 25, 2009, 05:58:55 PM
"Dysthymia?  Did they get some student from the University of Chicago with a hard-on for ancient Bactrian cities to name this?  I feel cheated."

Sheilbh

Maybe try something like Martin Meredith's 'The State of Africa' and then look in the bibliography/footnotes for more specific books?
Let's bomb Russia!

11B4V

#3112
I got a hankering for a wholesome tale of two punch drunk boxers.


THE IRAN-IRAQ WAR by PIERRE RAZOUX





"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

Gups

Quote from: Queequeg on August 29, 2016, 05:21:00 AM
Anyone know any good books about Sub-Saharan Africa + Ethiopia from around 1965-2000? I'm interested in anything looking at the collapse of post-Colonial administrations and rose of figures like Kagame. I just finished We  Wish to Inform You That Tomorrow We Will Be Killed With Our Families and it was mind blowing.

Ryszard Kapuscinski "Shadow of the Sun" is fantastic, one of my favourite books. He also wrote a book on the downfall of Selassie which is highly regarded though I've not read it myself.

11B4V

Quote from: 11B4V on September 03, 2016, 01:34:18 AM
I got a hankering for a wholesome tale of two punch drunk boxers.


THE IRAN-IRAQ WAR by PIERRE RAZOUX

So far very well layout book. He uses recordings Hussein made during that time and captured in 2003. The cloak and dagger suit behind the scenes is entertaining.

I always thought the Iraqis used the Mirage F-1 in the attack. Turns out a captured modified Falcon 50 was the culprit.

The author also gives just credit to the Iranian AF.
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

jimmy olsen

Quote from: Savonarola on July 25, 2016, 09:38:36 AM
In anticipation of the upcoming Trump presidency I read Reflections on the Revolution in France by Edmund Burke; now I have the strangest urge to buy a pair of pleated pants :unsure:.

;)

This book has some faults.  Like Cicero (whom Burke quotes extensively) before him, Burke is stuck trying to make the case that the then existing order was the best possible government.  Also Burke wasn't the best informed about the state of revolutionary France; his description of the October March, for instance, verges on an high drama.  Even so, the book is remarkably prescient; from 1790 he foresaw the death of the King and Queen (though he thought Marie Antoinette would be killed first), the counter revolutions, the terror, and the rise of a military dictatorship.  His explanation as to why the disaster was to unfold (that it was based purely on the abstract and done by people with no experience in government) I find satisfactory; though there are certainly other interpretations.  (Hannah Arendt thought it was because the French cared about the poor. The American Revolution was considerably more successful since we did not ; a trend that's lived on for 240 years, and counting.   ;)

Don't those two go hand in hand. ;)
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jimmy olsen

Can anyone suggest a good book on Alexander the Great?
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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The Brain

Alexander the Geat was actually from Sweden.
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Eddie Teach

Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 05, 2016, 10:12:15 PM
Can anyone suggest a good book on Alexander the Great?

I can suggest a song.
To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

garbon

Quote from: Gups on July 26, 2016, 01:50:27 AM
Quote from: Josephus on July 25, 2016, 05:10:27 PM
I'm looking for a good but entry level book into Roman history. Suggestions?

SPQR by Mary Beard is excellent.

I've really been enjoying this (and her writing is lovely) but I don't know how good it is as an intro look into Roman History. She spends a lot of time working thematically, so it feels like without some basic grounding of key roman events, persons, timelines...well you don't get a lot of that in a coherent fashion.

Also, as this NYT review attests, she does seem to spend a lot of time challenging typical narratives and facts we have about Roman. I think that works well, again, for someone who has learned those narratives and 'facts' but I wonder how well that works as someone new to it.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/18/books/review-in-spqr-a-history-of-ancient-rome-mary-beard-tackles-myths-and-more.html?_r=0

QuoteIn 'SPQR: A History of Ancient Rome,' Mary Beard Tackles Myths and More

Mary Beard is well known in England, so much so that when the magazine The Oldie — that country's vastly more sophisticated version of our AARP magazine — named her its 2013 pinup of the year, no one had to ask: Who?

Ms. Beard is a professor of classics at Cambridge University, the author of a shelf of books, a stalwart on BBC television and radio, and the author of a witty and combative blog, "A Don's Life," written for the website of The Times Literary Supplement.

The publication of her new book, "SPQR: A History of Ancient Rome," feels like a potential crossover moment. Ms. Beard was profiled in The New Yorker last year (expertly, by Rebecca Mead), yet her renown has not fully made the leap over the Atlantic Ocean.

"SPQR" — the title derives from an acronym of the Latin phrase Senatus PopulusQue Romanus, meaning "the senate and people of Rome" — is a sprawling but humane volume that examines nearly 1,000 years in the early history of that teeming city and empire.

Ms. Beard takes up Rome's foundational myth of Romulus and Remus (those abandoned twins, said to have been suckled by a lactating wolf) and moves us through A.D. 212, when Emperor Caracalla made the revolutionary declaration that all free inhabitants of the vast Roman empire, wherever they lived, were now Roman citizens.

In between, she considers the lives and meanings of figures like Julius Caesar, Hannibal, Spartacus, Nero, Cleopatra, Augustus and Caligula (it is typical of her to remind us that "Caligula" is a childhood nickname that roughly means "Bootikins"), while attending to the writers who chronicled the age: men like Cicero, Livy, Horace, Virgil and Pliny the Younger.

By necessity this book is, more often than not, a history of great men. Early on, at least, Roman peasants left few historical traces. Wood and straw do not survive the way marble does.

Women were subordinate to their husbands and left behind little writing. "The autobiography of the emperor Nero's mother, Agrippina," Ms. Beard writes of the missing book, "must count as one of the saddest losses of classical literature." When solid information about everyday life in Rome begins to emerge in the historical record, however, Ms. Beard pays rapt attention.

She is a debunker and a complicator. Do not come to this book for grand vistas, magisterial certainty or pinpoint war strategy. She refers to the Battle of Actium in 31 B.C., for example, as "a rather low-key, slightly tawdry affair" and then adds, in a very Beardian aside, "Perhaps more decisive military engagements are low-key and tawdry than we tend to imagine."

About Edward Gibbon, whose multivolume "The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire" began to be published in 1776, Ms. Beard comments that he "lived in an age when historians made judgments" without hesitation. She will not be of that sort.

It's a weakness of "SPQR" that Ms. Beard seems more eager to tell us what historians don't know than what they do. She is so subtle, hedging every bet, that the ceiling fans sometimes cease to circulate the air.

You push past this book's occasional unventilated corner, however, because Ms. Beard is competent and charming company. In "SPQR" she pulls off the difficult feat of deliberating at length on the largest intellectual and moral issues her subject presents (liberty, beauty, citizenship, power) while maintaining an intimate tone.

"In some ways, to explore ancient Rome from the 21st century is rather like walking on a tightrope, a very careful balancing act," she writes. "If you look down on one side, everything seems reassuringly familiar: there are conversations going on that we almost join, about the nature of freedom or the problems of sex; there are buildings and monuments we recognize and family life lived out in ways we understand, with all their troublesome adolescents; and there are jokes that we 'get.'"

"On the other side, it seems completely alien territory. That means not just the slavery, the filth (there was hardly any such thing as refuse collection in ancient Rome), the human slaughter in the arena and the death from illnesses whose cure we now take for granted; but also the newborn babies thrown away on rubbish heaps, the child brides and the flamboyant eunuch priests."

Ms. Beard's prose is never mandarin, yet she treats her readers like peers. She pulls us into the faculty lounge and remarks about debates that can make or end academic careers. She prints a drawing of Pliny the Younger's immense villa, for example, and remarks, "It has been a favorite scholarly pastime for centuries to take Pliny's own description of the place and to try to re-create an image or plan of it."

She is consistently but not deformingly alert to irony, to satire, to humor in its high and low forms. Sometimes she merely has to supply the details. She notes that one Roman contraception technique involved "wearing the worms found in the head of a particular species of hairy spider." She enjoys cataloging ancient put-downs. "You baldy" is among the few that can be printed here.

Just as often the humor is a byproduct of her myth-busting stride across the territory. About Caligula, for example, she writes: "The idea of some modern scholars that his dinner parties came close to orgies, with his sisters 'underneath' him and his wife 'on top,' rests simply on a mistranslation of the words of Suetonius, who is referring to the place settings — 'above' and 'below' — at a Roman dining table." Yes, this is how rumors start.

You come to Ms. Beard's books to meet her as much as her subjects. They are idiosyncratic and offbeat, which is to say, pleasingly hers.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."

I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.