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Started by Jacob, January 02, 2015, 04:09:24 PM

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Ideologue

Kinemalogue
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dps

Quote from: Barrister on January 02, 2015, 10:41:43 PM
Why oh why do people take Ideo's "ideology" seriously?

Because people espousing stupid political ideas can be dangerous.  They can go from people pointing at them and laughing to invading Poland in a dozen years or so.  If you take them at face value, there's probably a better chance of stopping them before they get their hands on any real power. 

In Ide's particular case, I'm not sure how much of the idiocy he posts he himself takes seriously.  To the extent that he does take it seriously, it's clear that he's motivated by frustration over not achieving his personal (non-political) goals in life, which probably makes it more likely that he ends up shooting up a McDonald's or a mall somewhere rather than ever holding any political office.  That's a better outcome the country as a whole than him ever being in a position to actually make or influence public policy, but would suck for anyone who happened to be in the place he shoots up. 

The Brain

Quote from: Sheilbh on January 02, 2015, 07:07:19 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on January 02, 2015, 06:34:54 PM
Prostitution is one of those things where it doesn't make sense to keep it locked down as a criminal enterprise, but even if legal/regulated/taxed, all that good stuff, will still always be seen as a "low class" activity that often has soul-crushing effects on most of those involved.

High-end, glamorous escorts will be an exception, of course...but like very rich people in society, I think that will always be a tiny minority.
Sure it can. Swedish solution, criminalise the clients :contract:

:bleeding:
Women want me. Men want to be with me.

The Brain

Lots of jobs are soul-crushing or dangerous. Let's ban everything.

Bottom line in the prostitution debate is that people don't think that women are capable of making their own decisions about sex. It's just the old control-women's-sexuality thing in somewhat new clothes.
Women want me. Men want to be with me.

Ideologue

#64
Quote from: dps on January 03, 2015, 04:09:49 AM
Quote from: Barrister on January 02, 2015, 10:41:43 PM
Why oh why do people take Ideo's "ideology" seriously?

Because people espousing stupid political ideas can be dangerous.  They can go from people pointing at them and laughing to invading Poland in a dozen years or so.  If you take them at face value, there's probably a better chance of stopping them before they get their hands on any real power. 

In Ide's particular case, I'm not sure how much of the idiocy he posts he himself takes seriously.  To the extent that he does take it seriously, it's clear that he's motivated by frustration over not achieving his personal (non-political) goals in life, which probably makes it more likely that he ends up shooting up a McDonald's or a mall somewhere rather than ever holding any political office.  That's a better outcome the country as a whole than him ever being in a position to actually make or influence public policy, but would suck for anyone who happened to be in the place he shoots up.

That's real nice.

Relax: as long as there are enough people like you, their minds freezing over with fear and greed, the country as a whole will remain exactly as it is today.  And why shouldn't there be?  After all, it is so clearly awesome and functional that only an insane person would question its underpinnings, let alone suggest improvements.

"Fuck" and "you," scumbag.
Kinemalogue
Current reviews: The 'Burbs (9/10); Gremlins 2: The New Batch (9/10); John Wick: Chapter 2 (9/10); A Cure For Wellness (4/10)

dps

#65
Quote from: Ideologue on January 03, 2015, 06:03:21 AM
Quote from: dps on January 03, 2015, 04:09:49 AM
Quote from: Barrister on January 02, 2015, 10:41:43 PM
Why oh why do people take Ideo's "ideology" seriously?

Because people espousing stupid political ideas can be dangerous.  They can go from people pointing at them and laughing to invading Poland in a dozen years or so.  If you take them at face value, there's probably a better chance of stopping them before they get their hands on any real power. 

In Ide's particular case, I'm not sure how much of the idiocy he posts he himself takes seriously.  To the extent that he does take it seriously, it's clear that he's motivated by frustration over not achieving his personal (non-political) goals in life, which probably makes it more likely that he ends up shooting up a McDonald's or a mall somewhere rather than ever holding any political office.  That's a better outcome the country as a whole than him ever being in a position to actually make or influence public policy, but would suck for anyone who happened to be in the place he shoots up.

That's real nice.

Relax: as long as there are enough people like you, their minds freezing over with fear and greed, the country as a whole will remain exactly as it is today.  And why shouldn't there be?  After all, it is so clearly awesome and functional that only an insane person would question its underpinnings, let alone suggest improvements.

"Fuck" and "you," scumbag.

Get back to us when you have something to suggest that would be an actual improvement, not a pastiche of the worst ideas of the 19th and 20 centuries.

EDIT:  And dude, chill.  If the level of anger and frustration that your posts suggest is real and not just an affectation, you need to calm down before you do snap and do something violent.

Admiral Yi

I give Ide a lot of credit for being willing to address the repercussions of his proposals, something you can't say about most Trots.

As to how serious he is, I don't think he's a true believer.  It's more on the lines of "I'll keep this position until someone can convince me otherwise."

Richard Hakluyt

Quote from: The Brain on January 03, 2015, 04:38:23 AM
Lots of jobs are soul-crushing or dangerous. Let's ban everything.

Bottom line in the prostitution debate is that people don't think that women are capable of making their own decisions about sex. It's just the old control-women's-sexuality thing in somewhat new clothes.

+1

Ideologue

Quote from: dps on January 03, 2015, 12:47:19 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on January 03, 2015, 06:03:21 AM
Quote from: dps on January 03, 2015, 04:09:49 AM
Quote from: Barrister on January 02, 2015, 10:41:43 PM
Why oh why do people take Ideo's "ideology" seriously?

Because people espousing stupid political ideas can be dangerous.  They can go from people pointing at them and laughing to invading Poland in a dozen years or so.  If you take them at face value, there's probably a better chance of stopping them before they get their hands on any real power. 

In Ide's particular case, I'm not sure how much of the idiocy he posts he himself takes seriously.  To the extent that he does take it seriously, it's clear that he's motivated by frustration over not achieving his personal (non-political) goals in life, which probably makes it more likely that he ends up shooting up a McDonald's or a mall somewhere rather than ever holding any political office.  That's a better outcome the country as a whole than him ever being in a position to actually make or influence public policy, but would suck for anyone who happened to be in the place he shoots up.

That's real nice.

Relax: as long as there are enough people like you, their minds freezing over with fear and greed, the country as a whole will remain exactly as it is today.  And why shouldn't there be?  After all, it is so clearly awesome and functional that only an insane person would question its underpinnings, let alone suggest improvements.

"Fuck" and "you," scumbag.

Get back to us when you have something to suggest that would be an actual improvement, not a pastiche of the worst ideas of the 19th and 20 centuries.

EDIT:  And dude, chill.  If the level of anger and frustration that your posts suggest is real and not just an affectation, you need to calm down before you do snap and do something violent.

Seriously, you really need to shut up.  You are being 100% a dick and you know it.
Kinemalogue
Current reviews: The 'Burbs (9/10); Gremlins 2: The New Batch (9/10); John Wick: Chapter 2 (9/10); A Cure For Wellness (4/10)

Eddie Teach

Quote from: Ideologue on January 03, 2015, 04:59:25 PM
Seriously, you really need to shut up.  You are being 100% a dick and you know it.

The forum was built on being able to be dicks to people spouting off silly political povs.
To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

Ideologue

I dunno, I think there's a thick, easily-observable line between "you're an idiot and also evil" and "for serious, I've reported you to the FBI because I'm afraid of you even though you don't own a gun and the mall nearest you has maybe three people in it at any given time."
Kinemalogue
Current reviews: The 'Burbs (9/10); Gremlins 2: The New Batch (9/10); John Wick: Chapter 2 (9/10); A Cure For Wellness (4/10)

HVC

Quote from: Ideologue on January 03, 2015, 06:09:01 PM
I dunno, I think there's a thick, easily-observable line between "you're an idiot and also evil" and "for serious, I've reported you to the FBI because I'm afraid of you even though you don't own a gun and the mall nearest you has maybe three people in it at any given time."
so you have been scoping out the mall :contract: :P

Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

Ideologue

I work at a mall. <_<

...go ahead.  I know it's on the tips of your forked tongue.
Kinemalogue
Current reviews: The 'Burbs (9/10); Gremlins 2: The New Batch (9/10); John Wick: Chapter 2 (9/10); A Cure For Wellness (4/10)

Eddie Teach

Does your business get lots of walk-in customers?  :huh:
To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

CountDeMoney

Quote from: Ideologue on January 03, 2015, 06:49:36 PM
I work at a mall. <_<

...go ahead.  I know it's on the tips of your forked tongue.

Fuck you, man.  Swiss Colony never called me back.