So, is this rape?

[Capetan Mihali]

Yeah; which is probably in part why almost all the states have either repealed their rape laws in favor of sexual assault laws, or amended their rape laws to cover sexual assault.

[Richard Hakluyt]

Like having sex with someone who is pretending to be interesting but is actually boring.......which makes 90% of sex rape 

I don't think this is a valid comparison, to be honest...

I think we have to go with consent, the fan did not consent to sex with the midget so she was raped.

If it ever went to court then the judge might well choose to be lenient with his sentencing.

[Caliga]

The title of this thread got "Is this love?" by Whitesnake stuck in my head.  THANKS MART.

[Sheilbh]

Yep it is.

"Rape" has traditionally been defined as the use of force or the threat of force to obtain sex.  Clearly that doesn't apply here.  Calling something like this "rape", I think, is kind of an insult to anyone who has been forcibly raped.

Consent's always been part of it though it wasn't just the use of force. Rape was having sex with a woman forcibly and against her will.

[Grey Fox]

In 2014 rape.
In 1970 not rape.

[Brazen]

I'm pretty sure "consent" applies only to the person you agreed to have sex with

[garbon]

I'm pretty sure "consent" applies only to the person you agreed to have sex with

[Martinus]

I'm pretty sure "consent" applies only to the person you agreed to have sex with

It seems some of the Languish men think a woman's consent is like an open buffet...

[Martinus]

Yeah; which is probably in part why almost all the states have either repealed their rape laws in favor of sexual assault laws, or amended their rape laws to cover sexual assault.

I guess it is a fair point, but I would say likewise that in casual modern language "rape" is often used to describe any sexual assault which actually involves vaginal, anal or oral penetration.

[derspiess]

Can't believe the m-word is being thrown around here by folks who ought to be sensitive enough.

[Martinus]

Incidentally, Polish law defines "rape rape" as "causing another person to participate in sexual congress through the use of force, threat or deceit."

If there is no sexual congress but "other sexual act", then it is a sexual assault.

So the conduct of the midget would clearly be "rape rape" under Polish law, with Mencia being an accessory.

Other forms of sexual crimes are sex with a minor, sex with an incapacitated person, or the victim is induced to have sex because of the authority of the perp.

[Martinus]

Can't believe the m-word is being thrown around here by folks who ought to be sensitive enough.

I don't think words hurt people. Unlike rape. So go fuck yourself.

[garbon]

Carlos Mencia

He's dreadful.

[garbon]

Can't believe the m-word is being thrown around here by folks who ought to be sensitive enough.

I don't think words hurt people.

Marti's problem in a nutshell?

[grumbler]

She was certainly sexually assaulted.  Whether the midget raped her depends on his mindset, not hers.  If he thought she was willingly engaging in sex with him, he wasn't raping her.  If he engaged in sex with her knowing that she hadn't consented to sex with him, then he did rape her.  I don't think that there can be a rape victim without a rape perpetrator, though I may be legally wrong on that.