What are the primary reasons for black males being killed by cops in the US?

Started by Martinus, December 04, 2014, 11:05:27 AM

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In your opinion, what is the primary reason for statistical prevalence of black males being killed by cops in the US?

Black males are more likely to commit crimes or act irresponsibly than males of other ethnic groups
19 (65.5%)
There is no statistical prevalence in reality - the media just report about deaths of black males more than about deaths of other people killed by cops
4 (13.8%)
There is a bias among police force against black males, resulting in unequal treatment / perception of threat
17 (58.6%)
Other (Describe)
6 (20.7%)

Total Members Voted: 29

Martinus

Read the question on the poll carefully as it could not fit in the thread title in its entirety.

You can choose more than one option if you believe this is a combination of several causes, and you are unable to identify one primary cause.

Razgovory

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Martinus


Admiral Yi


Razgovory

I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Grey Fox

There is a cultural state in which a blackman needs to stand up for himself that leads to white policeman being afraid & considering them untrustworthy. So they get shot.
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Martinus

Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 04, 2014, 11:10:01 AM
Blacks are not very good at obeying police commands.

But are blacks being given the same type of commands (both in term of their content and tone) as whites, in similar circumstances? If yes, then it fits the first option, if not then it fits the third option.

The Brain

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Admiral Yi

Quote from: Martinus on December 04, 2014, 11:12:43 AM
But are blacks being given the same type of commands (both in term of their content and tone) as whites, in similar circumstances? If yes, then it fits the first option, if not then it fits the third option.

There is no doubt that blacks disproportionately commit crimes.  Merely commiting a crime doesn't get you shot however.  Resisting arrest gets you shot.  Or choked.

Eddie Teach

The primary reason is that they are more likely to commit crimes and more likely to be in the areas where crimes occur.
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Eddie Teach

Quote from: Martinus on December 04, 2014, 11:12:43 AM
But are blacks being given the same type of commands (both in term of their content and tone) as whites, in similar circumstances?

Most likely. Different neighborhoods make for different circumstances though. A cop in a quiet suburb won't be as jumpy.
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Ideologue

They can get away with it.

They'd be able to get away with shooting lots of white people too, but it's less sure.

Point is, a volunteer police force is always going to be well-stocked in people with the desire to exercise power through violence.
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Martinus

Quote from: Ideologue on December 04, 2014, 11:40:13 AM
They can get away with it.

They'd be able to get away with shooting lots of white people too, but it's less sure.

Point is, a volunteer police force is always going to be well-stocked in people with the desire to exercise power through violence.

That's an interesting take that I did not consider.

Essentially "cops are assholes and the society is racist" rather than "cops are racist".

Ideologue

I may go too far. I suppose the first instinct of anybody would be to shoot anyone else giving them any kind of grief, but if black, the cost/benefit analysis changes.
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