Erdogan: All foreigners hate us, want our money, and to see our children die!

[Syt]

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/foreigners-dont-like-muslims-only-their-money-turkish-president-erdogan.aspx?PageID=238&NID=74893&NewsCatID=338

Foreigners don't like Muslims, only their money: Turkish President Erdoğan

"Foreigners" are unable to solve the problems of the Middle East because Western states "don't like us" and are more interested in just following the cash, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan said on Nov. 27.

"Only we can solve our problems. I speak openly; foreigners love oil, gold, diamonds, and the cheap labor force of the Islamic world. They like the conflicts, fights and quarrels of the Middle East. Believe me, they don't like us," said Erdoğan during an address to the Standing Committee for Economic and Commercial Cooperation of the Organization of Islamic Cooperation (COMCEC) in Istanbul.

"They look like friends, but they want us dead, they like seeing our children die. How long will we stand that fact?" he added.

Erdoğan said Middle Eastern countries could solve their problems by themselves without any help from the West.

"The only condition to overcome the crisis in the Islamic world is unity, solidarity and alliance. Believe me, we can resolve every problem as long as we are united. Islamic countries, which have developed economically recently, have been experiencing the biggest humanitarian and political crisis in their history simultaneously," the Turkish president said.

"If we act together, we will end the loneliness of Palestine which has continued for nearly one century ... It is possible to end the bloodshed in Iraq and killing of Syrian children if we unite," he said. 

'Ego complex'

He also savaged critics of his remarks that Muslim explorers traveled to the Americas before Columbus as suffering from an "ego complex," reaffirming his belief their purported feat was an historical fact.

"I have been the target of heavy criticism by the Western media. Just because I repeated a fact based on scientific research, I have been targeted by the Western media, as well as the foreigners within who suffer from an ego complex," he said.

Erdoğan stirred controversy earlier this month by declaring that the Americas were discovered by Muslims in the 12th century, nearly three centuries before Christopher Columbus sailed across the Atlantic. He did not elaborate as to why the claim is only found in some obscure sources and is not known more widely.

Erdoğan insisted the criticism was aimed at preventing Muslims from "questioning anything."

"They have been very disturbed by the fact that we have reminded them of some historical facts, the history of civilization, science, politics and war. They don't want us to question anything," he said.
 
Erdogan cited as evidence the claim that "Columbus mentioned the existence of a mosque on a hill on the Cuban coast," and asked to build a mosque at the site mentioned by the Genoese explorer.

Most history books say Columbus set foot on the American continent in 1492 as he was seeking a new maritime route to India. A tiny minority of Muslim scholars have recently suggested a prior Muslim presence in the Americas, although no pre-Columbian ruin of an Islamic structure has ever been found.

In a controversial article published in 1996, historian Youssef Mroueh referred to a diary entry from Columbus that mentions a mosque in Cuba. But the passage is widely understood to be a metaphorical reference to the mosque-like shape of the landscape.

[Martinus]

Is this the week of crazy or something?

[Syt]

It's both amusing and scary.

[Syt]

The Pope will visit Turkey shortly and meet with Erdogan. That should be good.

[Monoriu]

It's both amusing and scary.

Why do you care?

[Duque de Bragança]

The Pope will visit Turkey shortly and meet with Erdogan. That should be good.

Hopefully better than the meeting between JP II and Ali Ağca?

[Martinus]

It's both amusing and scary.

Why do you care?

Turkey is an important NATO country. It's one of the few that seriously take their military commitments.

[Syt]

It's both amusing and scary.

Why do you care?

Considering the significant amount of people living in Vienna with Turkish roots, and a significant amount of them being Erdogan fanbois (last year we had thousands protesting in his favor during the Gezi protest thing, and more attending his election campaign rally here earlier this year) I find it useful to know what's going on in Turkish politics.

[Tamas]

It's both amusing and scary.

Why do you care?

Considering the significant amount of people living in Vienna with Turkish roots, and a significant amount of them being Erdogan fanbois (last year we had thousands protesting in his favor during the Gezi protest thing, and more attending his election campaign rally here earlier this year) I find it useful to know what's going on in Turkish politics.

Oh how I hate stuff like that. If the ruler of your country is such a great guy and he is so awesome you want to protest for him, the hell you are doing living in another country?

[Eddie Teach]

It's both amusing and scary.

Like fucking a tiger?

[Syt]

A lot of them will have Austrian citizenship, so it's technically not "their country."

[Duque de Bragança]

Is dual citizenship allowed in Austria? In Germany, it's allowed for EU nationals, and for others only till a certain age.

[Syt]

Is dual citizenship allowed in Austria? In Germany, it's allowed for EU nationals, and for others only till a certain age.

It's not. Supposedly the Turkish embassy is advising Turks getting their Austrian citizenship to come back afterwards to reclaim their Turkish passport as well. It was in the news this year, but there was not much follow up, so it might be that there's not many cases where this happens.

[Duque de Bragança]

Is dual citizenship allowed in Austria? In Germany, it's allowed for EU nationals, and for others only till a certain age.

It's not. Supposedly the Turkish embassy is advising Turks getting their Austrian citizenship to come back afterwards to reclaim their Turkish passport as well. It was in the news this year, but there was not much follow up, so it might be that there's not many cases where this happens.

So double citizenship, not dual citizenship. Mind you, it's not like all German civil servants have grasped the concept of dual citizenship.
OTOH, while in Austrian law, the foreign-born or foreign origin Turk naturalising individual automatically loses his previous Turkish status, that does not mean he loses it automaticaly in regard to Turkish law.

PS: shouldn't that be the Turkish consulate handling those matters (Turkish citizens) and not the embassy (state relations/diplomacy between Austria and Turkey)?

[Syt]

Embassy and consulate services are often rolled into one in here in the capital.

From the news story I understand that the consulate branch of the embassy would provide proof of the new Austrian citizen renouncing their Turkish citizenship, but still give them citizenship/passport afterwards.