The Jian Ghomeshi saga

[crazy canuck]

Ok, confess Malthus, you gave him a link to this thread didnt you 

I might as well have.

Anyway, it is interesting to see how our Langush Cabal stacks up against fairly top legal talent - pretty well, as it happens.

Or it is interesting that your firm stacks up well against the Cabal 

[Barrister]

Here's an interesting analysis:  Ghomeshi files the lawsuit not because he thinks he can win (he knows he can't), but it allows him to:

A. Make a series of allegations against the CBC which are protected from any libel suit; and
B. To intimidate any potential accusors from going public or else risk being sued themselves by Ghomeshi's multinational law firm.

Makes sense actually. 

http://business.financialpost.com/2014/10/28/jian-ghomseshi-lawsuit-cbc/

[Josephus]

Next time I have legal issues I'll just post them here and let the cabal give me (free) advice.

Plead guilty.

Wow you guys are good. That's what my public defender said too

[crazy canuck]

B. To intimidate any potential accusors from going public or else risk being sued themselves by Ghomeshi's multinational law firm.

As an aside, I chuckle whenever someone says they are being represented by a "multinational law firm" when the matter doesn't actually involve multiple jursidictions. 

[Barrister]

B. To intimidate any potential accusors from going public or else risk being sued themselves by Ghomeshi's multinational law firm.

As an aside, I chuckle whenever someone says they are being represented by a "multinational law firm" when the matter doesn't actually involve multiple jursidictions.

Yeah.  Look, I'm sure the lawyer Ghomeshi hired is good and reputable, but I assumed there was a reason why he picked an enormous firm like Dentons instead of an equally capable, but smaller, law firm.

[The Minsky Moment]

B. To intimidate any potential accusors from going public or else risk being sued themselves by Ghomeshi's multinational law firm.

As an aside, I chuckle whenever someone says they are being represented by a "multinational law firm" when the matter doesn't actually involve multiple jursidictions.

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It does seem unlikely he will need advice from the Kampala office.

[Josephus]

HEre's another one for you guys to mull over:

http://business.financialpost.com/2014/10/28/jian-ghomseshi-lawsuit-cbc/

[crazy canuck]

Looks suspiciously like the one BB posted. 

In any event, I dont agree with everything Howard said, including the advice he says he normally gives his employer clients in situations like this.

[Josephus]

Oh 

[Barrister]

Four more women come forward.  One gives her name.

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2014/10/29/jian_ghomeshi_8_women_accuse_former_cbc_host_of_violence_sexual_abuse_or_harassment.html#

It's as if these women are offended that Ghomeshi was trying to portray himself as a victim.

[Jacob]

A couple of thoughts:

1. DeCoutere seems pretty credible. Trailer Park Boys has lots of fans, she doesn't seem to fit the stereotypical woman-looking-for-attention that exists in parts of the public mind either. That might have made it harder to keep her silent, compared to fans and eager professionals hoping to work with Ghomeshi.

2. From the accounts it seems to me that Ghomeshi was - is - into what he thought was consensual but rough BDSM style sex (in that he pulled back when he registered a lack of interest), but that he had a very fucked up idea of how to obtain such consent - basically something like "a quick sample, and if you like it we're good to go; if not, no biggie, we'll part ways amicably". The problem, of course, is that the "quick sample" probably constitutes sexual assault, and even if it doesn't it's creepy as all hell to be subjected to.

[Tonitrus]

Four more women come forward.  One gives her name.

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2014/10/29/jian_ghomeshi_8_women_accuse_former_cbc_host_of_violence_sexual_abuse_or_harassment.html#

It's as if these women are offended that Ghomeshi was trying to portray himself as a victim.

Two of the women who allege they were physically assaulted also say that before the alleged assaults in his home he introduced them to Big Ears Teddy, a stuffed bear, and he turned the bear around just before he slapped or choked them, saying that "Big Ears Teddy shouldn't see this."

[Barrister]

2. From the accounts it seems to me that Ghomeshi was - is - into what he thought was consensual but rough BDSM style sex (in that he pulled back when he registered a lack of interest), but that he had a very fucked up idea of how to obtain such consent - basically something like "a quick sample, and if you like it we're good to go; if not, no biggie, we'll part ways amicably". The problem, of course, is that the "quick sample" probably constitutes sexual assault, and even if it doesn't it's creepy as all hell to be subjected to.

Yeah - I can sort of see where Ghomeshi thinks he is getting consent.

But it's just his idea of consent is horribly, horribly wrong.

[PRC]

Four more women come forward.  One gives her name.

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2014/10/29/jian_ghomeshi_8_women_accuse_former_cbc_host_of_violence_sexual_abuse_or_harassment.html#

It's as if these women are offended that Ghomeshi was trying to portray himself as a victim.

Two of the women who allege they were physically assaulted also say that before the alleged assaults in his home he introduced them to Big Ears Teddy, a stuffed bear, and he turned the bear around just before he slapped or choked them, saying that "Big Ears Teddy shouldn't see this."

@BigEarsTeddy twitter account.  Note the date of the tweets: https://twitter.com/bigearsteddy

[Jacob]

Four more women come forward.  One gives her name.

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2014/10/29/jian_ghomeshi_8_women_accuse_former_cbc_host_of_violence_sexual_abuse_or_harassment.html#

It's as if these women are offended that Ghomeshi was trying to portray himself as a victim.

Two of the women who allege they were physically assaulted also say that before the alleged assaults in his home he introduced them to Big Ears Teddy, a stuffed bear, and he turned the bear around just before he slapped or choked them, saying that "Big Ears Teddy shouldn't see this."

@BigEarsTeddy twitter account.  Note the date of the tweets: https://twitter.com/bigearsteddy

A few stand out:

Hi there @jianghomeshi. Remember louring me to ur house under false pretences? Bruises dont lie. Signed, every female Carleton U media grad.

So I guess it's not abuse if you're paying the girl to like it. Right, @jianghomeshi? #happyhitting #hookerhero

BREAKING NEWS: @jianghomeshi keeps an impressive anthology of videos and photos of the young girls he chokes out... #howromantic #rapecultre

Yes, a friendly FYI @jianghomeshi to cement your great depression,
snuck a viddy of you punching me – OOPS this is my confession #staytuned

... if this is even remotely legit, then that doesn't put Ghomeshi in a good light.