The Shooting Gallery: Police Violence MEGATHREAD

Started by Syt, August 11, 2014, 04:09:04 AM

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Razgovory

I didn't know that the killers chased the guy for five minutes before they closed in for the kill.  That's not murder, that's a lynching.  Emmet Till had a better chance at survival.
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fromtia

Well, relieved that Ahmed Auberys murderers are in fact murderers in the eyes of the law, despite the defenses best efforts to rely on some good old southern racism, that's a relief. I had read something recently about the Rittenhouse case, that essentially offered that no one with a legal background was surprised by the outcome and that liberal/progressive/leftish media had fundamentally mislead its audience in the reporting of the case.
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Quote from: Razgovory on November 24, 2021, 02:23:22 PM
I didn't know that the killers chased the guy for five minutes before they closed in for the kill.  That's not murder, that's a lynching.  Emmet Till had a better chance at survival.

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Quote from: fromtia on November 24, 2021, 02:30:10 PM
Well, relieved that Ahmed Auberys murderers are in fact murderers in the eyes of the law, despite the defenses best efforts to rely on some good old southern racism, that's a relief. I had read something recently about the Rittenhouse case, that essentially offered that no one with a legal background was surprised by the outcome and that liberal/progressive/leftish media had fundamentally mislead its audience in the reporting of the case.

I don't think it was shocking that Rittenhouse got off, more shocking that laws were set up that such a thing was legal.
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Quote from: HVC on November 24, 2021, 02:09:23 PM
at least Ahmaud Arbery's murders are going to jail.

Yeah, that's a huge relief in my case.  I was genuinely concerned that they'd get away with it and crush my last beliefs that the US justice system was any better than Italy's.
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I'm pleasantly surprised that an apparently racially profiled jury, choose instead to stick with a correct reading of the law.
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jimmy olsen

Tucson cop shot a man in a wheelchair in the back 9 times because he was shoplifting and pulled a knife.  :rolleyes:

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/12/01/us/arizona-wheelchair-officer-shooting/index.html
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Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 01, 2021, 10:59:07 PM
Tucson cop shot a man in a wheelchair in the back 9 times because he was shoplifting and pulled a knife.  :rolleyes:

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/12/01/us/arizona-wheelchair-officer-shooting/index.html
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Syt

Him being white proves that police are not biased against blacks. :)
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Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 01, 2021, 10:59:07 PM
Tucson cop shot a man in a wheelchair in the back 9 times because he was shoplifting and pulled a knife.  :rolleyes:

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/12/01/us/arizona-wheelchair-officer-shooting/index.html

The 9th shot is the one that fucking just makes you ill. Well, they all do, of course, but he unloads on the guy eight times....pauses....then shoots him one more time in a way that just looks really fucking deliberate. I understand how in the moment, you are not counting shots or anything, but that last one just looked like an execution.

Now, to be fair, the story isn't QUITE as simple as it sounds in that the guy in the scooter thing (it wasn't a wheelchair, and it was motorized, hence he was able to move himself around) pulled a knife and then started driving his scooter back into the store while the cop yelled at him not to do that over and over again. So there is, to some rather tenuous definition, a threat to other people there.

And it is kind of a weird spot for the cop to be in - how do you stop someone in a motorized scooter thing who is holding a knife? You can't really approach them without risking getting stabbed, and you don't want to let them get back into the store where who the fuck knows what the guys is going to do.

Shooting him eight times....then once more for good measure probably isn't the way to go though. The body cam from the women responding officer is freaking nuts. You can tell she was like "WTF DID YOU JUST DO!"
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I get the impression that some cops in the US are in fact trained to shoot to kill. If you are, then every scenario where you fire your gun and the person survives is a failure. You have to make sure they're dead.
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Zoupa

Not sure what kind of training you guys give your police officers down there, but if the only way to stop a dude on a handicap scooter with a knife is to shoot him 9 times... might want to review threat assessment and how to contain physical threats.

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Quote from: Zoupa on December 02, 2021, 11:33:18 AM
Not sure what kind of training you guys give your police officers down there, but if the only way to stop a dude on a handicap scooter with a knife is to shoot him 9 times... might want to review threat assessment and how to contain physical threats.

Did you miss the part where the department that he worked for specifically said this goes against their training and code of conduct?
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