The Shooting Gallery: Police Violence MEGATHREAD

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Eddie Teach

#5550
June 23, 2020, 03:23:13 PM
I think maybe the statement dissociating himself from his son's comments isn't the place to lavish compliments.
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Admiral Yi

#5551
June 23, 2020, 03:24:32 PM
Quote from: Barrister on June 23, 2020, 02:56:44 PM
What's wrong with the first one?

He called the person who advocated for dragging a black driver around the pits by a noose an amazing man.

grumbler

#5552
June 23, 2020, 03:28:23 PM
Quote from: Barrister on June 23, 2020, 03:13:46 PM
Quote from: PRC on June 23, 2020, 03:08:48 PM
Quote from: Barrister on June 23, 2020, 02:56:44 PM
Quote from: DGuller on June 23, 2020, 08:25:24 AM
I think Mike Skinner put out a more resolutely condemning statement, once his PR person returned the call.

What's wrong with the first one?  How strongly must a father publicly denounce his own son on social media?

Hard to reconcile the father calling the son an "amazing man and amazing father" with that amazing man saying the driver should be noosed and pulled around the pits.

It's his own son though.

Well, you wouldn't expect him to unconditionally condemn his own son, but you'd not expect him to unconditionally applaud his racist comments and say that they are signs of an "amazing man and amazing father," either.  Conditional condemnation is the minimum required of a decent human being.

As Sheilbh says, an "amazing man and amazing father" would absolutely disown the less-than-amazing son and man for making such vicious comments.  This isn't the time or place for "there are god people on both sides" arguments.
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Eddie Teach

#5553
June 23, 2020, 03:32:58 PM
An amazing father's son wouldn't make such comments, but if he did wouldn't be disowned either. It's not like he killed someone.
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The Brain

#5554
June 23, 2020, 04:24:28 PM
How has NASCAR responded to this?
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11B4V

#5555
June 23, 2020, 06:15:45 PM
Standby, Seattle is going to be clearing CHOP soon.
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

DGuller

#5556
June 23, 2020, 06:32:29 PM
Quote from: The Brain on June 23, 2020, 04:24:28 PM
How has NASCAR responded to this?
To the noose incident, it responded as well as possible, actually, though you can't help but wonder how much of that is just cynical virtue signalling.  As far as the Skinner dude, I don't think he's even involved in NASCAR, he's a complete nobody on his own merits.  He did get fired by his cocaine trafficking brother from his job.

11B4V

#5557
June 23, 2020, 06:44:13 PM
No charges in noose case.
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

fromtia

#5558
June 23, 2020, 06:57:51 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on June 23, 2020, 06:15:45 PM
Standby, Seattle is going to be clearing CHOP soon.

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grumbler

#5559
June 23, 2020, 07:45:31 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on June 23, 2020, 06:44:13 PM
No charges in noose case.

Yep.  It was there long before Wallace was assigned (last week) to that garage.  It's a loop that looks like a noose, but not a noose, and it's on the end of the garage door pull-down rope.
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derspiess

#5560
June 23, 2020, 08:08:59 PM
Apparently took 15 FBI investigators to figure that out. Glad it wasn't what some thought it was.
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11B4V

#5561
June 23, 2020, 08:16:04 PM
Quote from: derspiess on June 23, 2020, 08:08:59 PM
Apparently took 15 FBI investigators to figure that out. Glad it wasn't what some thought it was.

I miss Seedy on posts like this.  :cry:
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

derspiess

#5562
June 23, 2020, 08:41:58 PM
Yup 😢
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Razgovory

#5563
June 23, 2020, 09:19:48 PM
Quote from: derspiess on June 23, 2020, 08:08:59 PM
Apparently took 15 FBI investigators to figure that out. Glad it wasn't what some thought it was.


Actually, I am glad that it wasn't what some people thought it was.  I'd much rather hear about imaginary racism than real racism.
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grumbler

#5564
June 23, 2020, 09:27:56 PM
Quote from: derspiess on June 23, 2020, 08:08:59 PM
Apparently took 15 FBI investigators to figure that out. Glad it wasn't what some thought it was.

Apparently, I don't know how many FBI investigators I should have expected it to take, given that you seem to think that 15 was either much too large a number, or much too small a number.  What range of numbers would not have prompted you to post about the numbers at all, and why is 15 a noteworthy number?
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