The Shooting Gallery: Police Violence MEGATHREAD

[Sheilbh]

I mean as I say I always think there's a good America and a bad America; an America of radical promise and intense reaction. The "good America" is providing the analysis and the language for activists around the world right now who are facing their systemic racism and out of control police.

I know some people see that as Europeans importing unwanted and annoying American style political correctness. But I think it's simply that American activists etc have done the work already and now we can use it - similar stuff happened with gay rights activism. I mean the major LGBT organisation in the UK is called Stonewall.

[Tonitrus]

NYT has apologized for running the Tom Cotton op-ed.

I am actually not sure they should...I think it is a good idea when ridiculous viewpoints are given a spotlight.

[Sheilbh]

NYT has apologized for running the Tom Cotton op-ed.

I am actually not sure they should...I think it is a good idea when ridiculous viewpoints are given a spotlight.

Yeah I also sort of think even if you don't run the op-ed the content is newsworthy: US Senator calls for army to be deployed domestically against American protests.

Or, as the Onion put it, "Republican Leaders Claim New Yorkers Will Greet U.S. Military As Liberators"

[grumbler]

NYT has apologized for running the Tom Cotton op-ed.

I am actually not sure they should...I think it is a good idea when ridiculous viewpoints are given a spotlight.

I agree.  Unless you let the Republican party reveal its ugly heart, people might not realize how far it is from the party of Lincoln.  A bunch of Republicans saying ugly things on an ugly Faux Snooze broadcast with ugly-hearted hosts is just preaching to the choir.  The broader public needs to know about this.

[Berkut]

The Buffalo video of the elderly gentleman being shoved is quite disgusting. Especially how many cops just walk past when a puddle of blood forms under his head. The original police report said the man "tripped and fell." They've since corrected it and suspended the officer who shoved him has been suspended without pay.

The larger crime here (sorry to the old guy who was assaulted) is not the assault.

Who is being suspended and charged for falsifying a police report?

[Syt]

The Buffalo video of the elderly gentleman being shoved is quite disgusting. Especially how many cops just walk past when a puddle of blood forms under his head. The original police report said the man "tripped and fell." They've since corrected it and suspended the officer who shoved him has been suspended without pay.

The larger crime here (sorry to the old guy who was assaulted) is not the assault.

Who is being suspended and charged for falsifying a police report?

I think the official explanation was that the initial report was written by one of the cops further back who didn't see the shove. I.e. they try to pass it off as an honest mistake.

[Tamas]

The Buffalo video of the elderly gentleman being shoved is quite disgusting. Especially how many cops just walk past when a puddle of blood forms under his head. The original police report said the man "tripped and fell." They've since corrected it and suspended the officer who shoved him has been suspended without pay.

The larger crime here (sorry to the old guy who was assaulted) is not the assault.

Who is being suspended and charged for falsifying a police report?

I think the official explanation was that the initial report was written by one of the cops further back who didn't see the shove. I.e. they try to pass it off as an honest mistake.

Convenient.

[garbon]

NYT has apologized for running the Tom Cotton op-ed.

I am actually not sure they should...I think it is a good idea when ridiculous viewpoints are given a spotlight.

Yeah I also sort of think even if you don't run the op-ed the content is newsworthy: US Senator calls for army to be deployed domestically against American protests.

Or, as the Onion put it, "Republican Leaders Claim New Yorkers Will Greet U.S. Military As Liberators"

I think there is some difference between said headline and choosing to devote printed space to such an opinion.

[mongers]

I happened to catch a couple of minutes of RT on this when I was flipping through the news channels, entirely different 'viewpoint' but it reminded me very much of Fox News in style and approach; both equally effective propaganda arms of increasingly thuggish 'regimes'? 

[Habbaku]

This is a totally normal transcript of a totally normal interview with a totally normal person:

[Josquius]

I mean as I say I always think there's a good America and a bad America; an America of radical promise and intense reaction. The "good America" is providing the analysis and the language for activists around the world right now who are facing their systemic racism and out of control police.

I know some people see that as Europeans importing unwanted and annoying American style political correctness. But I think it's simply that American activists etc have done the work already and now we can use it - similar stuff happened with gay rights activism. I mean the major LGBT organisation in the UK is called Stonewall.

What is funny to see is all these complaints of the UK being too americanised and taking on issues that have nothing to do with us, from the very people who have been guilty of doing that for years.
It's really fascinating how things have completely flipped.

[Syt]

This is a totally normal transcript of a totally normal interview with a totally normal person:

Stayed more on topic or at least topic-adjacent than I expected him to, but my expectations are quite low at this point.

[Syt]

Just a friendly neighborhood cop kicking a woman to the curb:

https://twitter.com/GeorgeTakei/status/1268895318843809793?s=20

[Syt]

Meanwhile, in LA.

[jimmy olsen]

But Syt, I don't think they could be expected to abort whatever they were doing and all gather around the injured guy. That seemed like it was taken care of how it should be in that situation, more or less. I mean, the need for them to do the whole counter-riot marching is questionable at best, I guess, but I mean given the situation.

As it should be? Not one cop helped him.  He was helped by national guardsmen who happened to be nearby. Without them he would have likely died.  The officers who shoved him should be fired and charged with assault. Every officer who passed him by should be fired.