The Shooting Gallery: Police Violence MEGATHREAD

Started by Syt, August 11, 2014, 04:09:04 AM

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Habbaku

#3960
May 31, 2020, 10:38:16 PM
Only robo-fascists like Mono don't.
The medievals were only too right in taking nolo episcopari as the best reason a man could give to others for making him a bishop. Give me a king whose chief interest in life is stamps, railways, or race-horses; and who has the power to sack his Vizier (or whatever you care to call him) if he does not like the cut of his trousers.

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Syt

#3961
May 31, 2020, 10:49:55 PM
Overall I'm surprised at the low death toll of the protests.

It seems the National Guard in Minneapolis is armed and has ammo. From CNN:
Quote"We are currently armed, and our soldiers are carrying ammunition. This came upon this result of what I described to Gov. (Tim) Walz as a credible threat to the Minnesota National Guard," Army Maj. Gen. Jon Jensen, the Adjutant General of the Minnesota National Guard told a news conference Sunday.

I guess it would take but one squad to panic for tragedy to ensue.
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—Stephen Jay Gould

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Valmy

#3962
May 31, 2020, 10:53:32 PM
Why? Why would you have them be armed with live ammo? Are they going to hire some Hessian Mercenaries next?
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

PDH

#3963
May 31, 2020, 10:56:34 PM
Welcome to Kent State
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-CdM

FunkMonk

#3964
May 31, 2020, 11:30:35 PM
I'd just like to say Mono is a real piece of shit.  :bowler:
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Syt

#3965
May 31, 2020, 11:46:58 PM
https://twitter.com/JimNelsonTV/status/1267246200102760450?s=19
QuoteMessage from Cleveland police tonight: "No media is allowed downtown unless they are inside their place of business. Period."
@CLEpolice
I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

Syt

#3966
May 31, 2020, 11:50:12 PM
Re: identifying police who use excessive force: in several cities they've taped up their badge numbers.
I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

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jimmy olsen

#3967
June 01, 2020, 12:43:24 AM
Unless this is another incident I missed, two of those Atlanta cops were fired for the one I linked to earlier.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/aggressive-policing-tactics-called-question-national-protests-flare-n1220471?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma
QuoteAn arrest in Atlanta of two college students Saturday night, as a citywide curfew was going into effect, was so excessive, police officials said Sunday, that two officers involved were fired and three others were placed on desk duty.

A video of the incident showed one of the students getting dragged from the car, while the driver, who remained behind the wheel, was tased and then pulled out of the vehicle. It's unclear what preceded the incident, but Atlanta Police Chief Erika Shields told reporters that "how we behaved is unacceptable," reported NBC affiliate WXIA
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Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
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11B4V

#3968
June 01, 2020, 12:46:37 AM
Quote from: Syt on May 31, 2020, 11:46:58 PM
https://twitter.com/JimNelsonTV/status/1267246200102760450?s=19
QuoteMessage from Cleveland police tonight: "No media is allowed downtown unless they are inside their place of business. Period."
@CLEpolice

That's stupid. News in Seattle/Bellevue have been excellent.
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

Syt

#3969
June 01, 2020, 12:52:27 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on June 01, 2020, 12:46:37 AM
Quote from: Syt on May 31, 2020, 11:46:58 PM
https://twitter.com/JimNelsonTV/status/1267246200102760450?s=19
QuoteMessage from Cleveland police tonight: "No media is allowed downtown unless they are inside their place of business. Period."
@CLEpolice

That's stupid. News in Seattle/Bellevue have been excellent.

It appears there's supposedly a mix up in communications that was misinterpreted.
I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

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11B4V

#3970
June 01, 2020, 12:53:55 AM
Ah, that would been bad move by the city.
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

Syt

#3971
June 01, 2020, 01:03:00 AM
With the Targets being looted I'm reminded of one of the most embarrassing family moments in my life. Early 2002, visiting my middle sister in Fayetteville, NC, her husband being stationed at Ft. Bragg. My Mom was making dinner, and my sister and I headed to Target. She wanted some electrical thingy - I forget what - and wanted to check at a customer service desk if they had that in stock.

The black guy at the desk was still serving another (black) customer, so my sister and I started browsing the aisles. When we return to the desk the guy is serving another (black) customer. My sister complained that we had been there first, and the guy said we'd just walked away, so he hadn't known if we still needed service. My sister insisted we were first, and he said he'd be right with us.

At which my sister exploded, "Fucking niggers!" and went on a tirade how blacks were treating whites like shit like they were owed anything, and it's no wonder people were racist if this is how blacks treat whites and she would never set foot in this "fucking nigger store" again.

I was shocked, dumbfounded, and honestly had no idea to react. She didn't mention this when we were back at her house, and I had absolutely no idea how to deal with it. I believe it was a while before she went back to any Target.
I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

garbon

#3972
June 01, 2020, 01:05:51 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on June 01, 2020, 12:46:37 AM
Quote from: Syt on May 31, 2020, 11:46:58 PM
https://twitter.com/JimNelsonTV/status/1267246200102760450?s=19
QuoteMessage from Cleveland police tonight: "No media is allowed downtown unless they are inside their place of business. Period."
@CLEpolice

That's stupid. News in Seattle/Bellevue have been excellent.

Why do we care? :huh:
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Syt

#3973
June 01, 2020, 01:13:10 AM
https://gizmodo.com/nypd-union-doxes-mayors-daughter-on-twitter-1843813751

QuoteNYPD Union Doxes Mayor's Daughter on Twitter

A New York City Police Department union known for its controversial attacks on Mayor Bill de Blasio tweeted personally identifying information about his daughter on Sunday night, including a residential address, apartment number, and her New York State ID number.

The tweet by the Sergeants Benevolent Association (SBA), which in February claimed that members of the NYPD were "declaring war" against De Blasio, attacked the mayor's daughter, Chiara de Blasio, for being arrested during an "unlawful assembly" on Saturday night.

Multiple news outlets reported that NYPD arrested De Blasio, the younger, during the fifth night of nationwide protests over the police-killing of George Floyd, an unarmed Black man whose alleged murder at the hands of four Minneapolis police officers sparked protests and violent clashes with authorities in dozens of major cities.

The SBA, run by union boss Ed Mullins, Mayor De Blasio's fiercest critic, included a photo of a computer screen which appeared to be his 25-year-old daughter's arrest report. The report included her date of birth, NYS ID number, and various biographical information, such as height, weight, and citizenship status. It also included an apartment number and home address, which appeared to be Gracie Mansion, the mayor's residence (though the zip code did not appear correct.)

Twitter's policies expressly forbid users from posting personal information, including identity documents, including government-issued IDs. Posting home addresses "or other identifying information related to locations that are considered private" is also forbidden.



The SBA's tweet remained up for more than an hour before eventually being taken down after a several users (including this reporter) flagged the tweet for abuse.

Twitter has yet to respond to a request for comment.

Althougth his duties relate almost entirely to the operations of one of New York City's most highly visible police unions, Mullins, a former NYPD sergeant of Brooklyn's 67th Precinct, continues to receive a taxpayer-funded salary of $133,524, according to the Gothamist.

Mullins' views on policing and his frequent attacks on the mayor's office are widely viewed as controversial. He has a history of defending the stop-and-frisk program under former Mayor Mike Bloomberg, a racial-profiling operation that civil rights leaders hold as chiefly responsible for dramatically worsening the relationship between minority communities and the NYPD.

Under stop-and-frisk, Blacks and Latinos were disproportionately targeted more than 5 million times by the NYPD between 2002 and 2013, when U.S. District Court Judge Shira Scheindlin ruled the practice unconstitutional. Mullins has called the practice "productive" and "an effective policy."

The SBA's latest attack on De Blasio and his daughter came day after the mayor defended the NYPD's aggressive and often violent tactics while facing off against protesters in Brooklyn. Video on social media showed two NYPD vehicles plowing into a crowd of demonstrators who were throwing traffic cones and other objects, knocking some to the ground.

De Blasio's description of the incident did not match footage of it circulating online. While he claimed it was "inappropriate for protesters to surround a police vehicle and threaten police officers," video clearly shows the police vehicles were not surrounded. One of the vehicles was in forward motion nearly the entire time with no one standing behind it. Protesters were only occasionally to the rear of the other vehicle.

De Blasio attempted to walk back some of his statement on Sunday, saying he did not like what he saw "one bit."

The protests over George Floyd's death have gone for six days, spreading further and further. Some 40 cities are now holding daily protests, including in Minneapolis, Minnesota, where Floyd was killed. Incidents of arson and looting have been commonplace after dark, prompted curfews and National Guard units to be deployed in multiple cities.

Footage captured during the day, however, has shown dozens of incidents of police officers appearing to break law, in some cases violently shoving demonstrators for no reason, or attacking them as they retreat with punches, kicks, clubs, pellet guns, tear gas, and concussion grenades. Members of the news media appear to be prime targets, with countless journalists and news crews reporting they've been attacked and shot with "less-lethal" rounds while holding their press badges high in the air.

Some of the most alarming footage taken shows police officers exploding with rage at random civilians walking on sidewalks far from protesters with no apparent reason, hitting them in the face with pepper spray and shoving them before casually walking away.

One video, taken in Minneapolis on Saturday, captured police officers in black masks being escorted by a military Humvee firing what appeared to be paint canisters directly at a woman standing on her porch in a quiet neighborhood. Before firing, one officer can be heard screaming: "Light 'em up!

The Humvee appeared to belong to the National Guard, which had deployed at Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz request earlier in the day. In an email to Gizmodo yesterday, the National Guard declined to confirm ownership of the vehicle.



Meanwhile, a lawyer for the LAPD police union has called on Twitter for rioters/looters to be shot:













A longer post of her history: https://imgur.com/tmpy5FB

https://sports.yahoo.com/michael-pittman-jr-usc-lapd-tweets-twitter-profile-picture-031954595.html

She's since removed the job description from her profile and deleted some of the posts, saying she was in a state of anger. Michael Pittman, the football player with whom she poses in her profile picture has asked her to remove him from her profile picture.

QuoteMy remarks were made in a fit of anger at circumstances in general. It was a stupid thing to say. And wasn't directed at anyone's race. Just upset at all the destruction.
— SoCalMAB (@SoCalMAB) June 1, 2020
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—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

Valmy

#3974
June 01, 2020, 01:15:38 AM Last Edit: June 01, 2020, 01:29:15 AM by Valmy
The rioting is indeed something to be upset about. Maybe police should see about preventing the causes of the protests that provide cover for those people with as much vigor as they see about dealing with the effects. Just a thought.

Edit: Though I guess I should point out she also stated that protestors should be shot as well.
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