The Shooting Gallery: Police Violence MEGATHREAD

[CountDeMoney]

Seedy will be pleased to hear that the New Carisle deputy was a MP. 10 veteran points for him.

10% disability = 50 points

MAH DISLOCATED FINGER

[Tonitrus]

Still though, as long as it's considered "the brotherhood" there's going to be an issue with incorporating civilian management and oversight. 

I would argue that "cannot the mayor/city council just tell them to suck it up and take it?", except the po-po probably has enough dirt on their low-level corruption shenanigans to keep them quiet.  That and the "omg, tough on crime!!11" voters.

[11B4V]

Still though, as long as it's considered "the brotherhood" there's going to be an issue with incorporating civilian management and oversight. 

I would argue that "cannot the mayor/city council just tell them to suck it up and take it?", except the po-po probably has enough dirt on their low-level corruption shenanigans to keep them quiet.  That and the "omg, tough on crime!!11" voters.

The union will love that.

[Ed Anger]

Seedy will be pleased to hear that the New Carisle deputy was a MP. 10 veteran points for him.

10% disability = 50 points

MAH DISLOCATED FINGER

Hell, if I was a vet, I'd have million points.

MAH LIVER, KIDNEYS, GALLBLADDER, ARTHRITIS

[CountDeMoney]

Still though, as long as it's considered "the brotherhood" there's going to be an issue with incorporating civilian management and oversight. 

I would argue that "cannot the mayor/city council just tell them to suck it up and take it?", except the po-po probably has enough dirt on their low-level corruption shenanigans to keep them quiet.  That and the "omg, tough on crime!!11" voters.

That's got nothing to do with anything.  It's all about the Us versus Them mentality.  Civilians can't be trusted.  They don't know what happens on the Thin Blue Line.  They're not out there, they don't understand. All that bullshit.

grumbler mentioned why good cops are rare to the point of irrelevancy?  It's because they quit.  When I said I was worried about my fellow coworkers getting me killed or landing me in jail, I wasn't fucking kidding. 

[CountDeMoney]

Hell, if I was a vet, I'd have million points.

MAH LIVER, KIDNEYS, GALLBLADDER, ARTHRITIS

I give them a ration of shit at work about my Veterans points from the War on Drugs.  And at least my side won--which is more than I can say about them and their Afghanistan and Iraq bullshit.

[Ed Anger]

Seedy needed to do what my brother did, find a nice small city of 20-30 thousand and do just about nothing.

[CountDeMoney]

Seedy needed to do what my brother did, find a nice small city of 20-30 thousand and do just about nothing.

That shit never works out, man.

[Tonitrus]

Still though, as long as it's considered "the brotherhood" there's going to be an issue with incorporating civilian management and oversight. 

I would argue that "cannot the mayor/city council just tell them to suck it up and take it?", except the po-po probably has enough dirt on their low-level corruption shenanigans to keep them quiet.  That and the "omg, tough on crime!!11" voters.

The union will love that.

Public employees should not be allowed to have unions. 

[DGuller]

Agreed.  The amount of training US cops get is laughable compared to other civilized countries.  That certainly doesn't help instill the culture of professionalism.

What are you talking about.

The average training time for a US cop is 19 weeks.  In many European countries cops have to train for many years.

[Jacob]

While I think training is important, I expect the real issue is leadership and accountability.

[CountDeMoney]

The average training time for a US cop is 19 weeks.  In many European countries cops have to train for many years.

19 weeks for an academy class, maybe.  It's not an undergrad college.

[The Brain]

In Sweden training is 2.5 years.

[CountDeMoney]

In Sweden training is 2.5 years.

Since 2015, the National Police Academy is entirely outsourced by the Swedish Police Authority and training is carried out at three universities: Södertörn, Umeå and Växjö.[85] The training now covers five terms, and the last two include six months of paid workplace practice as a Police Trainee (equivalent to two and a half years of full-time studying).

So it's a coed for-profit degree with a paid internship.  Cute.

[The Brain]

In Sweden training is 2.5 years.

Since 2015, the National Police Academy is entirely outsourced by the Swedish Police Authority and training is carried out at three universities: Södertörn, Umeå and Växjö.[85] The training now covers five terms, and the last two include six months of paid workplace practice as a Police Trainee (equivalent to two and a half years of full-time studying).

So it's a coed for-profit degree with a paid internship.  Cute.

I don't know what your argument is.