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Russo-Ukrainian War 2014-23 and Invasion

Started by mongers, August 06, 2014, 03:12:53 PM

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grumbler

Quote from: Tonitrus on August 22, 2014, 06:25:10 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 22, 2014, 11:28:40 AM
They see me Razzin', they be hatin'.

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/08/22/world/asia/us-china-air-encounter/index.html?hpt=hp_t3

:console:

Yeah, that's the Chinese government response to anything they see as infringing on their imperial ambitions.  The fact that the US wussed out when confronted in the Hainan Island incident just bolsters the Chinese aggression.  The US needs to escort those missions for a few months to make a point, and if the Chinese continue to ignore international law, they need to "splash the Zeros" after appropriate warnings. The Chinese government respects strength.
The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.   -G'Kar

Bayraktar!

mongers

WTF.



Rebels consider auditioning for the new Mad Max film?

In the photos metadata or at least in attached comments:
Quote
Pro-Russian rebels talk in a field near the village of Khryaschevatoye, eastern Ukraine (23 August 2014)
"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"

Tonitrus

That looks like just a 4-wheel Can-AM ATV.  Trendy for the upper-class outdoorsman in the Alaska bush as well.

Edit: Nope, only 4-wheels.  Looks like the Commander Max model.

http://can-am.brp.com/off-road/side-by-side/commander-max.html

And if they were auditioning for a Mad Max film, they'd need studded leather chaps and maybe a hockey mask.

CountDeMoney

Quote from: grumbler on August 22, 2014, 06:42:20 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on August 22, 2014, 06:25:10 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 22, 2014, 11:28:40 AM
They see me Razzin', they be hatin'.

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/08/22/world/asia/us-china-air-encounter/index.html?hpt=hp_t3

:console:

Yeah, that's the Chinese government response to anything they see as infringing on their imperial ambitions.  The fact that the US wussed out when confronted in the Hainan Island incident just bolsters the Chinese aggression.  The US needs to escort those missions for a few months to make a point, and if the Chinese continue to ignore international law, they need to "splash the Zeros" after appropriate warnings. The Chinese government respects strength.

At least somebody other than me gets it.

Syt

The Lithuanian foreign ministry says their honorary consul in Lugansk was kidnapped and shot.
I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

mongers

Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 22, 2014, 11:45:43 PM
Quote from: grumbler on August 22, 2014, 06:42:20 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on August 22, 2014, 06:25:10 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 22, 2014, 11:28:40 AM
They see me Razzin', they be hatin'.

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/08/22/world/asia/us-china-air-encounter/index.html?hpt=hp_t3

:console:

Yeah, that's the Chinese government response to anything they see as infringing on their imperial ambitions.  The fact that the US wussed out when confronted in the Hainan Island incident just bolsters the Chinese aggression.  The US needs to escort those missions for a few months to make a point, and if the Chinese continue to ignore international law, they need to "splash the Zeros" after appropriate warnings. The Chinese government respects strength.

At least somebody other than me gets it.

Three front war?
"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"

CountDeMoney

Quote from: mongers on August 23, 2014, 05:50:03 AM
Three front war?

No, just a real, good ol' fashioned realpolitik cold war, which is the only kind that matters.  Not the Russian nuisance bullshit that isn't a threat to NATO, and not the Dangerous-Dune-Coons-of-the-Month fearmongering from the Middle Least.

Solmyr

Quote from: Syt on August 23, 2014, 01:12:03 AM
The Lithuanian foreign ministry says their honorary consul in Lugansk was kidnapped and shot.

Why the fuck did they have a consul in Lugansk?

Jacob

Quote from: Solmyr on August 23, 2014, 09:56:24 AM
Quote from: Syt on August 23, 2014, 01:12:03 AM
The Lithuanian foreign ministry says their honorary consul in Lugansk was kidnapped and shot.

Why the fuck did they have a consul in Lugansk?

Honorary consul.

Generally they are locals with strong connections to both countries, and are appointed to facility trade ties. A typical honorary consul is a local businessman fluent in both countries, with business and ethnic ties. He's your go-to guy if you want to import/export from one of the two countries, or set up a local cultural exchange (like say a student exchange, or a visiting orchestra, or whatever).

Sheilbh

Quote from: Syt on August 23, 2014, 01:12:03 AM
The Lithuanian foreign ministry says their honorary consul in Lugansk was kidnapped and shot.
Greeneland is now Eastern Europe :mellow:
Let's bomb Russia!

Martinus

Here's Russian rebels "parading" the Ukrainian prisoners in Donetsk.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8B_3Tq3u3c0

Savage Russian beasts.  :glare:

Solmyr

http://www.rferl.org/contentlive/liveblog/25416257.html

QuoteBREAKING from our Minsk bureau:

Alyaksandr Lukashenka has just emerged alone from a common dinner at the Minsk summit to make the following statement:

"Unfortunately, the situation in Ukraine has deteriorated to such an extent that no agreements on a political level can bring about a solution."

Jacob

Oh everything makes sense now! It's just a simple misunderstanding!

Russian soldiers in the Ukraine crossed the border by accident!

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-28934213

Syt

I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

Solmyr



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Fistfight at the Minsk summit
... and that's for the Malaysian Boeing