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Russo-Ukrainian War 2014-23 and Invasion

Started by mongers, August 06, 2014, 03:12:53 PM

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Sheilbh

Quote from: crazy canuck on February 03, 2023, 02:35:32 PMI hesitate to ask, but what does it signify?
From Syt:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourteen_Words

88 is "heil Hitler" from the 8th letter of the alphabet.
Let's bomb Russia!

Josquius

Quote from: DGuller on February 03, 2023, 01:35:08 PMIt makes me wonder what the point of mothballing equipment even is if it takes a year to get it online.  If it takes a lot of time and resources to get online crap that you thought was outdated even decades ago, then is it even worth it?

True. I guess throwing it just out there it might still work at reduced capacity?
But then the question is why not give it to Ukraine in a lesser state. They are in a desperate situation.
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The Larch

Given the massive investments that this kind of equipment usually is it's no wonder to me that even old and apparently useless stuff is kept around "just in case", should any future use be found for them.

HVC

Quote from: Zanza on February 03, 2023, 01:16:59 PM
Quote from: HVC on February 03, 2023, 10:29:28 AMWhat's the reason for taking them apart first?
They were in storage for 10+ years and are rotten inside.

That makes sense
Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

Sheilbh

Quote from: The Larch on February 03, 2023, 03:04:52 PMGiven the massive investments that this kind of equipment usually is it's no wonder to me that even old and apparently useless stuff is kept around "just in case", should any future use be found for them.
Also you suspect (hope) that in a situation of urgency/crisis those tanks could be renovated more quickly. One year doesn't feel like a bare minimum to get them on the field.
Let's bomb Russia!

Valmy

Quote from: Sheilbh on February 03, 2023, 02:38:38 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on February 03, 2023, 02:35:32 PMI hesitate to ask, but what does it signify?
From Syt:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourteen_Words

88 is "heil Hitler" from the 8th letter of the alphabet.

God both of those things are so fucking stupid. Like a code fifth graders would us.

Which granted sort of honors the memory of the Nazis since they eagerly adopted every idiotic notion one might come up with.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

HVC

Quote from: Valmy on February 03, 2023, 03:44:05 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on February 03, 2023, 02:38:38 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on February 03, 2023, 02:35:32 PMI hesitate to ask, but what does it signify?
From Syt:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourteen_Words

88 is "heil Hitler" from the 8th letter of the alphabet.

God both of those things are so fucking stupid. Like a code fifth graders would us.

Which granted sort of honors the memory of the Nazis since they eagerly adopted every idiotic notion one might come up with.

But ironically their codes were very good. And if I recall correctly HH is what actually brought down the enigma machine.
Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

Valmy

Quote from: HVC on February 03, 2023, 04:19:47 PMBut ironically their codes were very good. And if I recall correctly HH is what actually brought down the enigma machine.

Heh. That's true.

That and "weather report"

But if their codes were so great then why were the British and the Poles able to crack it almost immediately?
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

viper37

Quote from: Valmy on February 03, 2023, 04:27:00 PMBut if their codes were so great then why were the British and the Poles able to crack it almost immediately?
They cheated. ;)
They sent an American sub to capture an enigma machine, but then the sub got sunk and the crew got back in the U-572.  Saw that in a movie and Hollywood never gets history wrong.  :P


They cracked the original codes, but the U-boats ones were different (a 4th rotor was introduced) and were only cracked once the allies captured the cipher keys.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptanalysis_of_the_Enigma
I don't do meditation.  I drink alcohol to relax, like normal people.

If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.

Zanza

Media reports that now that Germany committed on Leopard 2 deliveries the other EU ountrues that were expected to deliver such tanks actually are hesitant and do not firmly commit.

https://www.n-tv.de/politik/Deutschland-wartet-auf-Zusagen-fuer-Leopard-2-Lieferung-article23892469.html

Crazy_Ivan80

such wishywashy behaviour needs to stop. But I fear most of nowadays politicians are closer to invertebrates than to mammals

DGuller

I feel for Ukrainians watching this circus while their cities literally burn.

Legbiter

Families of the mobilized in the Moscow region receiving support. Each family is getting 10kg of potatoes and 10kg of carrots. :hmm:

https://twitter.com/igorsushko/status/1621785685211611137

Posted using 100% recycled electrons.

Josquius

Quote from: Legbiter on February 04, 2023, 01:32:14 PMFamilies of the mobilized in the Moscow region receiving support. Each family is getting 10kg of potatoes and 10kg of carrots. :hmm:

https://twitter.com/igorsushko/status/1621785685211611137



The face blurring on this report is excellent.
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Jacob

All carrot and no stick? That's pretty progressive for Putin's regime.