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Russo-Ukrainian War 2014-23 and Invasion

Started by mongers, August 06, 2014, 03:12:53 PM

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The Brain

Quote from: The Brain on March 08, 2022, 12:15:31 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on March 08, 2022, 10:23:06 AMWhat name is used for medieval Rurikid state in Kyiv? Still "Rus"?

The one post-invasion mention by professional historian that I've seen has them as "Kyivan Rus'".

If "Muscovites" wasn't too long a word it would make sense to consistently use it for the people today called "Russians". The most historically accurate.

Ukraine may agree with me about the accurate part.

https://thehill.com/policy/international/3896712-moscow-fumes-as-ukraine-considers-changing-russias-official-name/

QuoteRussian officials railed against Ukraine's talk of changing Russia's official name to Muscovy, after a Ukrainian petition regarding a potential name change garnered 25,000 signatures.

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky reportedly instructed Ukrainian Prime Minister Denis Shmygal to "carefully" consider renaming Russia to Muscovy, accounting for consequences under international law and whether it was possible in historical and cultural contexts.

Russian Foreign Ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova said in a statement posted to Telegram on Saturday that Zelensky is trying to create an "anti-Russia Ukraine."

Dmitry Medvedev, a close ally of President Vladimir Putin and deputy chairman of Russia's Security Council, also reacted to the news, saying that they will not consider changing the name, according to The New Voice of Ukraine.

"The Supreme Nazi of Kyiv [Zelensky[ instructed to work out the issue of renaming Russia to Muscovy. Well, what can I say... Our answer? No, of course not," Medvedev said.

The petition notes that the name "Muscovy" was "used in European and some Asian languages" and appeared "on many historical maps of the 16th-19th centuries, which were produced in Europe before and after the renaming of the Muscovite Empire to the All-Russian Empire."
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The Larch

I've seen Kyivan Rus (or rather Kievan Rus) employed long before the invasion.

And renaming Russia to Muscovy seem plain silly to me, nothing to be achieved but pettiness.

The Brain

Quote from: The Larch on March 13, 2023, 06:22:09 AMI've seen Kyivan Rus (or rather Kievan Rus) employed long before the invasion.

Yes it has been the standard for decades.
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Grey Fox

Quote from: The Larch on March 13, 2023, 06:22:09 AMI've seen Kyivan Rus (or rather Kievan Rus) employed long before the invasion.

And renaming Russia to Muscovy seem plain silly to me, nothing to be achieved but pettiness.

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The Larch

Quote from: Grey Fox on March 13, 2023, 08:27:21 AM
Quote from: The Larch on March 13, 2023, 06:22:09 AMI've seen Kyivan Rus (or rather Kievan Rus) employed long before the invasion.

And renaming Russia to Muscovy seem plain silly to me, nothing to be achieved but pettiness.

The best kind of being right.

That'd be being technically right.  :P

The Larch

QuoteRussian fighter jet collides with US drone over Black Sea
A Russian Su-27 fighter jet has collided with a US military drone over the Black Sea, causing the drone to crash, according to the US military

The American MQ-9 Reaper drone and two SU-27 Flanker jets conducting a routine operation in international airspace when one of the Russian jets intentionally flew in front of and dumped fuel in front of the unmanned drone, according to a US official familiar with the incident.

In a statement, General James Hecker, who overseas the US air force in the region, said:

Our MQ-9 aircraft was conducting routine operations in international airspace when it was intercepted and hit by a Russian aircraft, resulting in a crash and complete loss of the MQ-9.

In fact, this unsafe and unprofessional act by the Russians nearly caused both aircraft to crash.

US and Allied aircraft will continue to operate in international airspace and we call on the Russians to conduct themselves professionally and safely.

Tamas

I know that for 20 years Russian pilots pulled stunts to provoke and laugh on NATO but they should realise its a much more tense situation now.

Zanza

Germany has reduced its Russian crude oil imports from 2.8 million tons in January 2022 to 3500 tons in January 2023, I.e. 99.9% reduction.

Legbiter

Quote from: The Larch on March 14, 2023, 12:37:32 PM
QuoteRussian fighter jet collides with US drone over Black Sea
A Russian Su-27 fighter jet has collided with a US military drone over the Black Sea, causing the drone to crash, according to the US military

The American MQ-9 Reaper drone and two SU-27 Flanker jets conducting a routine operation in international airspace when one of the Russian jets intentionally flew in front of and dumped fuel in front of the unmanned drone, according to a US official familiar with the incident.

Just means more support for Ukraine.  :hmm:
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viper37

I don't do meditation.  I drink alcohol to relax, like normal people.

If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.

Legbiter

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Would be pretty funny though if the US launched a "Remember the Maine!" operation to brutally evict the Russians mired in their disastrous war from all of Ukraine because of 1 drone being brought down. ^_^ 
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Josquius

More likely is americas military equipment chooses this method to assert their sentience.
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Legbiter

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viper37

I forgot to post that.

Russian army to be replenished with 400,000 new contract service personnel

QuoteThe Russian Defence Ministry will start new recruitment of professional soldiers to the Russian army from 1 April, their aim being to add 400,000 new recruits to the army.
Source: Russian Radio Svoboda
Details:

As Radio Svoboda reported, the Russian Defence Ministry has sent documents to the regions indicating the number of people with whom contracts should be signed.

Radio Svoboda noticed that several Russian regional media outlets immediately published the total number of contract service personnel needed to replenish the Russian army. It was noted that Russia planned to recruit 400,000 such soldiers.

Radio Svoboda indicated that the main part of the work will be carried out by military enlistment offices, and governors will be responsible for the implementation of the plan.

It was also reported that 10,000 people should be recruited for professional service in Chelyabinsk and Sverdlovsk oblasts of the Russian Federation, and 9,000 more in the Perm Krai.
I don't do meditation.  I drink alcohol to relax, like normal people.

If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.