Russo-Ukrainian War 2014-25

[grumbler]

It is a violation of the Geneva Conventions to film POWs.  News organizations are not bound by the GC, but the Ukrainian government is.  Hope these vids are from journalists.

[Razgovory]

https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1580339069531279361

Video of recently captured Russian soldiers.

They all describe roughly the same story: they were mobilized, wound up on the front line within days with a firearm but no food or water, stayed for three days then decided to walk back the way they came where they instead ran into a Ukrainian checkpoint and surrendered.

They all look like they're in really rough shape too.

Two of the guys are older than I am.  Russia has 144 million people.  They can't have run out of people in their 20's and 30's.  They just went straight for men in their 50's?

[Crazy_Ivan80]

Russia is evacuating civilians from Kherson city, so I guess that Ukranians must be close to it already.

evacuating or kidnapping, cause with the Russians you never know for sure

[OttoVonBismarck]

It is a violation of the Geneva Conventions to film POWs.  News organizations are not bound by the GC, but the Ukrainian government is.  Hope these vids are from journalists.

Nope. This is a false claim I actually see being made quite frequently. The GC contains no universal ban against signatory detaining powers filming POWs. Many, many uses of films of POWs do violate the GC, but all do not. POWs under the GC cannot be made into "public curiosities", should not be paraded before the public, used in propaganda etc. Most situations where you show close up, identifiable video of POWs under detention, are probably violations of the GC if disseminated by a detaining power, but they have to be evaluated on a case-by-case basis.

[grumbler]

Nope. This is a false claim I actually see being made quite frequently. The GC contains no universal ban against signatory detaining powers filming POWs. Many, many uses of films of POWs do violate the GC, but all do not. POWs under the GC cannot be made into "public curiosities", should not be paraded before the public, used in propaganda etc. Most situations where you show close up, identifiable video of POWs under detention, are probably violations of the GC if disseminated by a detaining power, but they have to be evaluated on a case-by-case basis.

Yes, there are technically a few cases where filming would not be a violation of the POW care provisions, but my point stands: if the Ukrainian government filmed and released this, it is probably a violation of the GC.

[Grey Fox]

Amnesty International is already on it!

[Jacob]

Apparently Russian propagandists are saying that internet trunk cables are legitimate targets in the hybrid warfare against the West... you know, because NATO messed with Nord Stream.

[HVC]

If they mess with tik tok there will be a new children's crusade.

[Darth Wagtaros]

Nope. This is a false claim I actually see being made quite frequently. The GC contains no universal ban against signatory detaining powers filming POWs. Many, many uses of films of POWs do violate the GC, but all do not. POWs under the GC cannot be made into "public curiosities", should not be paraded before the public, used in propaganda etc. Most situations where you show close up, identifiable video of POWs under detention, are probably violations of the GC if disseminated by a detaining power, but they have to be evaluated on a case-by-case basis.

Yes, there are technically a few cases where filming would not be a violation of the POW care provisions, but my point stands: if the Ukrainian government filmed and released this, it is probably a violation of the GC.

I guess the Ukrainians can claim that it is a special police operation not a war?

[Malthus]

Chatting with a Ukrainian colleague this morning.
She had been staying with a friend in Berlin for the past few months but just this Sunday gone moved back to Kyiv.
I get an idea this has been a trend lately. Lots of Ukrainian refugees trickling back home- often against their will due to a lack of support for them living elsewhere.

My brother in law has some of his wife's relations living with him.

They have jobs lined up here, and a free place to stay (in Toronto! People would kill for that).

Yet they only plan to stay a couple of months. The reason: they have family in Ukraine, don't want to leave them.

This is a pretty common sentiment. Many do not view their departure as at all permanent.

[Josquius]

https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1580339069531279361

Video of recently captured Russian soldiers.

They all describe roughly the same story: they were mobilized, wound up on the front line within days with a firearm but no food or water, stayed for three days then decided to walk back the way they came where they instead ran into a Ukrainian checkpoint and surrendered.

They all look like they're in really rough shape too.

Two of the guys are older than I am.  Russia has 144 million people.  They can't have run out of people in their 20's and 30's.  They just went straight for men in their 50's?

To be fair there's probably quite  a few guys in their 50s who could kick the arse of you, me, and a large chunk of people in their 20s and 30s.

[Sheilbh]

Apparently Russian propagandists are saying that internet trunk cables are legitimate targets in the hybrid warfare against the West... you know, because NATO messed with Nord Stream.

Flagged by VDL too. I think the British and Norwegian navies have been patrolling North Sea pipelines and cables for precisely that sort of attack.

[grumbler]

I guess the Ukrainians can claim that it is a special police operation not a war?

The term "Law of War" was changed to "Law of Armed Conflict" precisely to avoid having got make this kind of distinction.

[crazy canuck]

https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1580339069531279361

Video of recently captured Russian soldiers.

They all describe roughly the same story: they were mobilized, wound up on the front line within days with a firearm but no food or water, stayed for three days then decided to walk back the way they came where they instead ran into a Ukrainian checkpoint and surrendered.

They all look like they're in really rough shape too.

Two of the guys are older than I am.  Russia has 144 million people.  They can't have run out of people in their 20's and 30's.  They just went straight for men in their 50's?

To be fair there's probably quite  a few guys in their 50s who could kick the arse of you, me, and a large chunk of people in their 20s and 30s.

While I am certainly stronger than a lot of guys in their 20s and 30s, after a few weeks of training they should be much more fit than I am.

[HVC]

You've got an Achilles heel, or should I say Achilles knees. All they have to do is aim low