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Syt

I'm sure many are familiar with the "steamed hams" bit from The Simpsons, in which Skinner invites Superintendent Chalmers for dinner and things don't go as planned. For some reason it has been edited, re-edited, parodied and transformed countless times by the interwebs, but I feel this might be the pinnacle, a re-enactment as German Expressionist silent film:

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Josephus

Civis Romanus Sum

"My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world." Jack Layton 1950-2011

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Quote from: Syt on January 25, 2023, 01:41:26 AMI'm sure many are familiar with the "steamed hams" bit from The Simpsons, in which Skinner invites Superintendent Chalmers for dinner and things don't go as planned. For some reason it has been edited, re-edited, parodied and transformed countless times by the interwebs, but I feel this might be the pinnacle, a re-enactment as German Expressionist silent film:


The lightning is wrong for a German Expressionist film  <_<  :nerd:

Nitpicking aside, I loved it.  :)

grumbler

Quote from: Josephus on February 04, 2023, 07:41:40 AMCould bit on the Bismark, and the sinking of the Hood

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaFFzY8OXZc

Alas, as click-baity and overly melodramatic as YouTube gets.  Bismarck was not "the most feared ship of World War 2" and, in fact, was sunk on her maiden war voyage.  The RN felt, quite rightly, that their latest battleships were as good or better.  One could make the argument that Tirpitz was the "most feared" ship because the RN had to always account for her when deploying their forces, keeping two fast battleships and a carrier in the Home Fleet to ensure they'd sink her if she got out.

I am rather surprised that they found some naval historians in 2021 that are still promoting the false claim that Hood was somehow faulty because she was a battlecruiser, and she "sacrificed protection for speed."  She did not.  Hood was the best-armored British battleship coming out of WW1, and was, in fact, the first fast battleship.  The RN called the design a "fully armored battlecruiser."  That's what they called the King George V class, as well.  Hood's problems were not due to being a battlecruiser, but due to being old and not modernized.

Lots of problems with the tactical description of Denmark Strait, as well.  They have one guy claiming (falsely) that the Bismarck was able to fire without being distracted by British fire, then a claim that PoW hit Bismarck before Bismarck opened fire.  One mistake after another.  Breathless descriptions of very ordinary things like correcting gunnery solutions.

I did like the use of first-person accounts, though.

I didn't understand why the presenter was bobbing around in a small boat, though.
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Josephus

Nit-picking.

Being the best armoured ship coming out of WW1, doesn't make you a good ship in WW2. as you point out, it was old, not modernized, and as the doc points out, not refitted for WW2.
You also say that
They have one guy claiming (falsely) that the Bismarck was able to fire without being distracted by British fire, then a claim that PoW hit Bismarck before Bismarck opened fire
He didn't say it wasn't distracted for the whole battle. Just the first few minutes when Hood and POW were erroneously firing on Eugen.

I'm not an expert on the Atlantic sea battles, so I found the doc pretty interesting.
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grumbler

Quote from: Josephus on February 04, 2023, 12:19:16 PMNit-picking.

Being the best armoured ship coming out of WW1, doesn't make you a good ship in WW2. as you point out, it was old, not modernized, and as the doc points out, not refitted for WW2.

But the repeated claim is that, since she was a battlecruiser, Hood sacrificed armor for speed (false) and that she was not designed to stand up in battle against battleships (also false).

Hood's armor had nothing to do with her loss (though everything to do with Holland's tactics).  Bismarck couldn't penetrate either her deck nor her belt at that range and inclination.  The fatal hit almost certainly went in under the belt.

QuoteYou also say that
They have one guy claiming (falsely) that the Bismarck was able to fire without being distracted by British fire, then a claim that PoW hit Bismarck before Bismarck opened fire
He didn't say it wasn't distracted for the whole battle. Just the first few minutes when Hood and POW were erroneously firing on Eugen.

PoW never fired on Prinz Eugen. She fired before Bismarck and always targeted Bismarck.

QuoteI'm not an expert on the Atlantic sea battles, so I found the doc pretty interesting.

It's designed to be "interesting" what with the breathless description of the Admiralty's new technology:  the room! (dun dun duuun).  It's just not very historically accurate in some key areas and repeats old folklore that has long since been discarded by any serious historian of the battle.
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