Pope Francis too liberal for US House Republicans

Started by merithyn, August 04, 2014, 12:20:28 PM

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grumbler

Quote from: derspiess on August 04, 2014, 04:04:49 PM
As for me I'm still mostly positive on Francis.  He seems like a genuinely nice guy and humble almost to a fault.  I disagree with his criticism of capitalism but he's not saying anything other popes haven't said before.  I don't think there's much to be gained by badmouthing him.

I had my doubts about his sincerity in the beginning, but those have mostly been put to rest.  I am also mostly positive about him, but I'll wait for concrete results before I conclude that he's actually making a difference.  He certainly sounds like he wants to make a real difference, though, so I no longer view him as mouthing platitudes.
The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.   -G'Kar

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grumbler

Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on August 04, 2014, 05:59:53 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on August 04, 2014, 03:56:39 PM
Congress should really just keep out of this.
Non binding resolutions are pointless and silly to begin with and should be kept to a minimum.
Either the Pope can be viewed as a leader of a particular religious group, in which case Congress really shouldn't be conferring endorsements, or his is a leader of a foreign state (Vatican) in which case this is starting to infringe into the usual purview of the Executive.

Talking about what Jesus intended is sort of pointless because whatever the historical Jesus taught or thought, he wasn't thinking about what people 2000 years in the future in a global technological society would be doing.  He didn't intend to found an permanent enduring bureaucracy; the general consensus among the historians who have looked at the issue is that he thought and taught that the "end of the world" in some sense was nigh.

I don't think we need a Christkiller's opinion on Christ, thanks.

That was great, Brain!  :lol:

How did you figure out Otto's password?
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Caliga

I like Pope Francis, but I like Bob Tilton better.  Much funnier.

http://youtu.be/XVjSui1Kuck
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The Minsky Moment

Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on August 04, 2014, 05:59:53 PM
I don't think we need a Christkiller's opinion on Christ, thanks.

Makes sense.  Good thing then I don't do opinions, just the facts.   :)
The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists.
--Joan Robinson

The Minsky Moment

One thing about Francis - he seems to be doing a very effective job of reforming the bureaucracy and cutting out wasteful expenditure.   As a leader of the sovereign Vatican state, he is off to a very impressive start.  The doctrinal stuff of course is really none of my concern.
The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists.
--Joan Robinson

CountDeMoney

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on August 04, 2014, 03:56:39 PM
Congress should really just keep out of this.
Non binding resolutions are pointless and silly to begin with and should be kept to a minimum.
Either the Pope can be viewed as a leader of a particular religious group, in which case Congress really shouldn't be conferring endorsements, or his is a leader of a foreign state (Vatican) in which case this is starting to infringe into the usual purview of the Executive.

Talking about what Jesus intended is sort of pointless because whatever the historical Jesus taught or thought, he wasn't thinking about what people 2000 years in the future in a global technological society would be doing.  He didn't intend to found an permanent enduring bureaucracy; the general consensus among the historians who have looked at the issue is that he thought and taught that the "end of the world" in some sense was nigh.

Lulz, Gospel according to Jewwy Jewsteinberg, Jew at Law.

CountDeMoney

Quote from: derspiess on August 04, 2014, 04:04:49 PM
I disagree with his criticism of capitalism

Mitt RomnYi and Wall Street thanks you for it.  Sucker.

CountDeMoney

Quote from: grumbler on August 04, 2014, 06:03:31 PM
I had my doubts about his sincerity in the beginning, but those have mostly been put to rest.

Yeah, I thought he was just faking that whole lifelong Jesuit thing, too.

The Minsky Moment

Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 04, 2014, 09:12:45 PM
Lulz, Gospel according to Jewwy Jewsteinberg, Jew at Law.

That's the thing about Jews - takes one to know one.   :contract:
The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists.
--Joan Robinson

CountDeMoney

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on August 05, 2014, 10:13:25 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 04, 2014, 09:12:45 PM
Lulz, Gospel according to Jewwy Jewsteinberg, Jew at Law.

That's the thing about Jews - takes one to know one.   :contract:

Yeah, you got Jesus's message down "Love one another...at least until the advent of the Industrial Age and centralized monetary policy."  THE FUND MANAGERS WILL INHERIT THE EARTH

crazy canuck

Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 05, 2014, 12:00:26 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on August 05, 2014, 10:13:25 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 04, 2014, 09:12:45 PM
Lulz, Gospel according to Jewwy Jewsteinberg, Jew at Law.

That's the thing about Jews - takes one to know one.   :contract:

Yeah, you got Jesus's message down "Love one another...at least until the advent of the Industrial Age and centralized monetary policy."  THE FUND MANAGERS WILL INHERIT THE EARTH

I think you need to blame the Scots for the message that the free market alone will create the ideal society.

The Minsky Moment

Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 05, 2014, 12:00:26 PM
Yeah, you got Jesus's message down "Love one another...at least until the advent of the Industrial Age and centralized monetary policy."  THE FUND MANAGERS WILL INHERIT THE EARTH

Yeah that's me alright - Mr. loves me some fund managers.
Reading comp fail.
The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists.
--Joan Robinson

CountDeMoney

Don't give me shit about reading comp fail when you pull horseshit like this out of your ass.

QuoteTalking about what Jesus intended is sort of pointless because whatever the historical Jesus taught or thought, he wasn't thinking about what people 2000 years in the future in a global technological society would be doing.

Then again, maybe you can't be accused of reading comp fail, since the New Testament is involved.  You people never got to the sequel.

The Minsky Moment

Don't Fox News me, CountdeLaurenGreen.

Just more proof Christianity is too important to be left to the Christians.
The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists.
--Joan Robinson

derspiess

Quote from: crazy canuck on August 05, 2014, 12:03:40 PM
I think you need to blame the Scots for the message that the free market alone will create the ideal society.

If only they still believed in the free market :(
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall