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[Valmy]

Ed just got his Pontius Pilates instructor certification.

I laughed.

[Habbaku]

For the Latin scholars: is Pilate pronounced Pilot or Pilate(s)? Or Pilatey?

It's not a Latin word.  The name was, IIRC, Pontius Pilatus in Latin.  In Englsih, Pilate is pronounced much like the title of a guy who flies a plane.

Latin scholar mongers says otherwise.  Who do I trust?

[alfred russel]

For the Latin scholars: is Pilate pronounced Pilot or Pilate(s)? Or Pilatey?

It's not a Latin word.  The name was, IIRC, Pontius Pilatus in Latin.  In Englsih, Pilate is pronounced much like the title of a guy who flies a plane.

Latin scholar mongers says otherwise.  Who do I trust?

Well, grumbler did live through the era after all, but "captain" seems like an unlikely pronunciation. 

[Duque de Bragança]

For the Latin scholars: is Pilate pronounced Pilot or Pilate(s)? Or Pilatey?

[ˈpaɪlət/] 

[Admiral Yi]

[ˈpaɪlət/] 

[Martinus]

His Latin name was Pontius Pilatus, not Pilate.

Pilatus is pronounced "pee-lah-toos" or "pee-lay-toos", depending on the pronounciation school.

[Martinus]

For the Latin scholars: is Pilate pronounced Pilot or Pilate(s)? Or Pilatey?

It's not a Latin word.  The name was, IIRC, Pontius Pilatus in Latin.  In Englsih, Pilate is pronounced much like the title of a guy who flies a plane.

Latin scholar mongers says otherwise.  Who do I trust?

I don't think anyone who went to an Anglo-Saxon school knows how to pronounce Latin correctly, in my experience.

[Valmy]

I don't think anyone who went to an Anglo-Saxon school knows how to pronounce Latin correctly, in my experience.

Fortunately I went to a Norman school.

[CountDeMoney]

I don't think anyone who went to an Anglo-Saxon school knows how to pronounce Latin correctly, in my experience.

Fortunately I went to a Norman school.

Norman, Oklahoma public school system FTW.

[Valmy]

Norman, Oklahoma public school system FTW.

Much better than that of Saxon, Wisconsin.

[Eddie Teach]

Aha, Valmy's been exposed as a secret Okie! The shame, the shame.

[Razgovory]

http://www.theatlantic.com/features/archive/2015/02/what-isis-really-wants/384980/

Amazing article.

I was less then impressed.  Particularly when he argues that other Muslims aren't actual real Muslims.  It's a bit like arguing that Primitive Baptists are the only real Christians.  His original comparison to Jim Jones and David Koresh are apt.  Very few Christians would recognize it as a form of Christianity  It is notable that they mention the Koran a lot does not mention the hadiths once.

[mongers]

For the Latin scholars: is Pilate pronounced Pilot or Pilate(s)? Or Pilatey?

It's not a Latin word.  The name was, IIRC, Pontius Pilatus in Latin.  In Englsih, Pilate is pronounced much like the title of a guy who flies a plane.

Latin scholar mongers says otherwise.  Who do I trust?

I don't think anyone who went to an Anglo-Saxon school knows how to pronounce Latin correctly, in my experience.

I went to a 1970s English comprehensive, that's less an Anglo-Saxon school, more a socialist experiment. 

[Valmy]

http://www.theatlantic.com/features/archive/2015/02/what-isis-really-wants/384980/

Amazing article.

I was less then impressed.  Particularly when he argues that other Muslims aren't actual real Muslims.

Huh?  Where did he argue that? What the hell does 'actual real Muslims' even mean?

It's a bit like arguing that Primitive Baptists are the only real Christians.

It is probably a bit like many things.  But what is and is not Islam is not really any of my business.  These guys say they are Islamic, and to the best of my knowledge that is the only qualifier out there.  How representative they are of other Muslims is something else.  The article made it pretty clear this is a pretty extreme flavor.

His original comparison to Jim Jones and David Koresh are apt.  Very few Christians would recognize it as a form of Christianity

I didn't think it was all that comparable.  They reminded me very much of Orthodox Jews who spend time trying to do crap like rebuild the Temple in Jerusalem and have all these theories about what is going to happen before moshiach shows up.  Nutters who might be potentially dangerous should they ever be in a position to carry out what they think is God's will.  And a tad inconvenient since they are clearly experts on their texts.  But I could be wrong about that.

It is notable that they mention the Koran a lot does not mention the hadiths once.

Who is 'they' and how do you know they never mention the Hadiths?  The Hadiths are kind of a mess anyway from what I understand.

[Ed Anger]

Ed just got his Pontius Pilates instructor certification.

I laughed.

ditto.