The Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant Megathread

Started by Tamas, June 10, 2014, 07:37:01 AM

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Queequeg

Can we give the Kurds the H-Bomb to keep the Arabs out of their land?
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Quote from: LaCroix on August 06, 2014, 07:29:05 PM
Quote from: Valmy on August 06, 2014, 09:09:15 AMAnyway agreed I look forward to all those 'not anti-Semites but humanitarians' marching against ISIS across Europe.

i think it has to do with heightened standard. no one cares when two ghetto thugs kill each other. people care more when an attorney or doctor commits murder

Are you stereotyping jews as lawyers and doctors?
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LaCroix


jimmy olsen

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jimmy olsen

Also,  I've read reports that fighting is within 30 km of the Kurdiah capital of Erbil and the people are starting to panic and flee. I hope it's not true.
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derspiess

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on August 06, 2014, 05:13:21 PM
Hmm ... gnosticism is really a taxonomic way of grouping together ancient sects and groups with certain beliefs and characteristics.  It's not really a standalone religion you would convert to (?)

It is, actually.  I don't really know what the formal name is of their sect or whatever, but they call themselves Gnostic.  The church (?) has locations all over Latin America.  My sister in law and her husband joined up in Argentina after they went through their hippie phase, then moved out to a center in Costa Rica.  I think they're now with one in Peru.
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Tonitrus

I am not sure which foreign policy failure is worse (Not just on the part of the U.S., but the civilized world as a whole), not stopping Russia in the Ukraine, or letting ISIS run wild over Mesopotamia. 

Probably the latter, as that seems more likely to reach a Rwanda-level death toll of innocents.

Admiral Yi

I wonder what THE Islamic State's military secret is.  They only have around 15,000 armed men, but they're beating up modern armies that are vastly larger.

CountDeMoney

Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 06, 2014, 10:43:22 PM
I wonder what THE Islamic State's military secret is.  They only have around 15,000 armed men, but they're beating up modern armies that are vastly larger.


I suppose, like all outnumbered albeit ideologically-driven insurgencies, it all comes down to motivation.   The burning desire to chop off heads will always trump the peanuts a conscript gets paid.

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DGuller

Yeah, but still, one would think that when your skin is on the line, ideology wouldn't matter as much.  It's not like they're going to go "Fuck Assad, I'm going to get my head chopped off instead".

Tonitrus

Quote from: DGuller on August 06, 2014, 11:18:19 PM
Yeah, but still, one would think that when your skin is on the line, ideology wouldn't matter as much.  It's not like they're going to go "Fuck Assad, I'm going to get my head chopped off instead".

Well, I am sure it is more like "Fuck Assad, I am getting my ass out of here".  If they end up with their head cut off anyway, that is just bad luck.

Eddie Teach

Quote from: LaCroix on August 06, 2014, 07:29:05 PM
i think it has to do with heightened standard. no one cares when two ghetto thugs kill each other. people care more when an attorney or doctor commits murder

Israel is standing its ground.
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Quote from: Queequeg on August 06, 2014, 08:06:09 PM
Can we give the Kurds the H-Bomb to keep the Arabs out of their land?

That might result in there no longer being any arabs.
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A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

jimmy olsen

Quote from: DGuller on August 06, 2014, 11:18:19 PM
Yeah, but still, one would think that when your skin is on the line, ideology wouldn't matter as much.  It's not like they're going to go "Fuck Assad, I'm going to get my head chopped off instead".
I think they have a lot more men now. I've read they have 20,000just in Iraq now.
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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jimmy olsen

It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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1 Karma Chameleon point