Elections!

[Agelastus]

It is such a farce to have radically anti-EU parties run on EU elections. Can the people be (successfully) taken for bigger fools than that? Some aholes spit out popular negative BS and with that they grab the golden egg laid by the very thing they are spitting on. It is a disgrace.

Well. they could always take the Sinn Fein option, I suppose, in order to please you; but since I've always considered Sinn Fein's attitude to be stupid, pointless and hypocritical I'm not going to say I support that idea.

Seriously, Tamas - where's the difference between anti-European parties running for the European parliament and Irish, Welsh and Scots nationalists running for the British parliament?

[Tamas]

It is such a farce to have radically anti-EU parties run on EU elections. Can the people be (successfully) taken for bigger fools than that? Some aholes spit out popular negative BS and with that they grab the golden egg laid by the very thing they are spitting on. It is a disgrace.

Well. they could always take the Sinn Fein option, I suppose, in order to please you; but since I've always considered Sinn Fein's attitude to be stupid, pointless and hypocritical I'm not going to say I support that idea.

Seriously, Tamas - where's the difference between anti-European parties running for the European parliament and Irish, Welsh and Scots nationalists running for the British parliament?

I am not saying that makes absolute sense. But sure makes more than the EU Parliament, which has no meaningful power, AND the decision for a country to leave the EU will always come from the country in question. To leave the EU you do not need to be in the EU Parliament. You need the EU Parliament to grab those juicy salaries and cost covering funds.

[derspiess]

Fuck shelf.
I'm still crying about Bailout Bevin losing to Mitch Macullun,
Fuck Kentucky.
How the fuck can you vote for a big government republican when you know that big government is the problem?
Fuck Kentucky.

Bevin was a loon who would have lost in the general election.  McConnell was the lesser of two evils there.

[derspiess]

It is such a farce to have radically anti-EU parties run on EU elections. Can the people be (successfully) taken for bigger fools than that? Some aholes spit out popular negative BS and with that they grab the golden egg laid by the very thing they are spitting on. It is a disgrace.

It always did seem weird to me.  But I think some of the anti-EU types have legitimate grievances.  I know it makes sense to some of you Euro types, but the idea of having an additional, unnecessary layer of government just baffles me.

[Grey Fox]

It is such a farce to have radically anti-EU parties run on EU elections. Can the people be (successfully) taken for bigger fools than that? Some aholes spit out popular negative BS and with that they grab the golden egg laid by the very thing they are spitting on. It is a disgrace.

It always did seem weird to me.  But I think some of the anti-EU types have legitimate grievances.  I know it makes sense to some of you Euro types, but the idea of having an additional, unnecessary layer of government just baffles me.

Think of it has the akin to the US Federal government.

[Ed Anger]

I say again , FUCK KENTUCKY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111111111111111111

Wander in certain counties and Kentucky will fuck you.

[derspiess]

Think of it has the akin to the US Federal government.

<loads shotgun> 

[Grey Fox]

Watch out, the Feds are going to take it away.

[The Larch]

Really damning soundbite by the UKIP, trying to explain their poor results in London. Link thats to Mr. Warspite:

Ukip blames London election performance on difficulty appealing to the 'educated and cultured'

While Nigel Farage is busy claiming "the Ukip fox is in the Westminster hen-house", party spokesperson Suzanne Evans has uttered a sound bite UKIP would probably rather forget.

Asked to explain the party's relatively poor performance in London on Radio 4, Evans said they had difficulty appealing to the "educated, cultured and young."

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/ukip-blames-london-election-performance-on-difficulty-appealing-to-the-educated-and-cultured-9423200.html

[Josquius]

Really damning soundbite by the UKIP, trying to explain their poor results in London. Link thats to Mr. Warspite:

Ukip blames London election performance on difficulty appealing to the 'educated and cultured'

While Nigel Farage is busy claiming "the Ukip fox is in the Westminster hen-house", party spokesperson Suzanne Evans has uttered a sound bite UKIP would probably rather forget.

Asked to explain the party's relatively poor performance in London on Radio 4, Evans said they had difficulty appealing to the "educated, cultured and young."

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/ukip-blames-london-election-performance-on-difficulty-appealing-to-the-educated-and-cultured-9423200.html

No worries, the northerners are too thick to understand that this is a slight against them ey wot old boy pip pip.

[derspiess]

Watch out, the Feds are going to take it away.

They better keep their damned hands off ma' cattle 

[Valmy]

It always did seem weird to me.  But I think some of the anti-EU types have legitimate grievances.  I know it makes sense to some of you Euro types, but the idea of having an additional, unnecessary layer of government just baffles me.

Unnecessary?  Have you seen the size of a lot of those Euro countries? 

[Valmy]

Really damning soundbite by the UKIP, trying to explain their poor results in London. Link thats to Mr. Warspite:

Because outside of London they are proud to be barbarous ignoramuses.

[Sheilbh]

It is such a farce to have radically anti-EU parties run on EU elections. Can the people be (successfully) taken for bigger fools than that? Some aholes spit out popular negative BS and with that they grab the golden egg laid by the very thing they are spitting on. It is a disgrace.

How is it a disgrace?

UKIP are quite honest about the fact they claim all the allowances etc that they can to fund their party, but they're turkeys voting for Christmas because they want to get rid of them all. That's not taking the people for fools, that's being honest, no?

I am not saying that makes absolute sense. But sure makes more than the EU Parliament, which has no meaningful power, AND the decision for a country to leave the EU will always come from the country in question. To leave the EU you do not need to be in the EU Parliament. You need the EU Parliament to grab those juicy salaries and cost covering funds.

Until recently UKIP were only interested in European and general elections. Because they were only about Europe. Now they're becoming bigger and styling themselves on the Lib Dems they want to win councillors and then MPs, while Europe's just an added bonus - that does help cover the costs of national campaigns.

Really damning soundbite by the UKIP, trying to explain their poor results in London. Link thats to Mr. Warspite:

I do worry that I don't know a single UKIP voter and the world I live in is one where it's a given that they're racist. People enjoy the sneering articles and Radio 4 jokes and Twitter hashtags - but that's actually all rather distant from lots of people in the country. It makes me worry, again, that we're heading for US style culture wars

[derspiess]

It makes me worry, again, that we're heading for US style culture wars

Yeah, enjoy that.  Lots of fun