Chris Christie aides' emails suggest intentionally created traffic nightmare

Started by alfred russel, January 08, 2014, 03:50:41 PM

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PDH

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Sheilbh

Quote from: garbon on January 09, 2014, 09:33:09 AM
Is the only person that 91 year old woman? Is cardiac arrest uncommon in someone that age?
If a politician's defence is that the elderly woman would have died anyway, then I think they've got a problem.
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garbon

Quote from: Sheilbh on January 09, 2014, 09:28:33 PM
Quote from: garbon on January 09, 2014, 09:33:09 AM
Is the only person that 91 year old woman? Is cardiac arrest uncommon in someone that age?
If a politician's defence is that the elderly woman would have died anyway, then I think they've got a problem.

A politician would never say that. However, when ones is adamantly trying to prove that a politician is culpable, one shouldn't highlight a very old woman who died of cardiac arrest as definitive evidence of guilt.
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Jacob

Quote from: garbon on January 09, 2014, 09:55:06 PMA politician would never say that. However, when ones is adamantly trying to prove that a politician is culpable, one shouldn't highlight a very old woman who died of cardiac arrest as definitive evidence of guilt.

Why not?

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garbon

Quote from: Jacob on January 09, 2014, 10:05:18 PM
Quote from: garbon on January 09, 2014, 09:55:06 PMA politician would never say that. However, when ones is adamantly trying to prove that a politician is culpable, one shouldn't highlight a very old woman who died of cardiac arrest as definitive evidence of guilt.

Why not?

It isn't very clear cut. Not on the culpability of the politician in the act or that the old person died as a result of the act.
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garbon

Quote from: katmai on January 09, 2014, 10:12:27 PM
A homo hates old people! News at 11!

I think you'll need to pick a position. You can't claim that I party too much in Palm Springs on one hand but then say I dislike old people on the other. ;)
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katmai

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Gups

Quote from: alfred russel on January 09, 2014, 02:44:59 PM
Quote from: derspiess on January 09, 2014, 02:30:53 PM
Quote from: Gups on January 09, 2014, 01:32:22 PM
If he can be directly linked to the order, would that be the end of him politically?

He's a Republican, so yes.

QuoteHow's the GOP field shaping up for the primaries (or is it to early)? Any chance Daniels will run this time?

Lord, I wish.  But I get the impression Mitch is too smart to want to do it.

Isn't there a story about how he took a break with his wife, and she went to live with some other dude, and then they ended their break and are a couple again? Supposedly that would get him beat up a bit.

She divorced him and left him with the kids to set up with a married guy who left his wife and kids for her. After a year or two, she got divorced again and re-married Daniels. According to the double-down book, she vetoed him standing in 2012 and their kids were dead set aganst it too.

Malthus

The story seems to have legs.

I suspect the important part is not how culpable Christie may or may not be personally, but the fact that it makes such a good story about petty, vindictive jack-in-office oppression by officials who literally do not give a shit about the public they claim to serve - of which the public suspects there is much about that we have no evidence for.
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derspiess

Quote from: PDH on January 09, 2014, 09:20:37 PM
Beeb has to be a dick about it.  It comes with the pleats.

With pleats come much responsibility.
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Caliga

Quote from: Malthus on January 10, 2014, 09:33:25 AM
officials who literally do not give a shit about the public they claim to serve
Are there any other kinds of public officials? :hmm:
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Jacob

Quote from: Caliga on January 10, 2014, 10:06:58 AM
Quote from: Malthus on January 10, 2014, 09:33:25 AM
officials who literally do not give a shit about the public they claim to serve
Are there any other kinds of public officials? :hmm:

In many parts of the world, yes.

derspiess

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