Spain's Princess Cristina charged with tax fraud, money-laundering

Started by jimmy olsen, January 07, 2014, 06:49:50 AM

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Maximus

I would have said it sounded turkish, but it's apparently basque if wiki is to be believed.

Queequeg

I think I saw a King of Navarre named Inaki in CK2 as the Duchy of Barcelona once. 
Quote from: PDH on April 25, 2009, 05:58:55 PM
"Dysthymia?  Did they get some student from the University of Chicago with a hard-on for ancient Bactrian cities to name this?  I feel cheated."

Queequeg

Quote from: Razgovory on January 07, 2014, 04:09:23 PM
Quote from: Siege on January 07, 2014, 02:05:29 PM
Are they direct descendants from Isabel of Castilla and Fernando of Aragon?

Direct?  No.  They were of the House of Trastamara.  The current Monarchy is the House of Bourbon.
I'd be really surprised if the House of Bourbon had less than four marriages in to Hapsburgs who were direct descendants of the Catholic Monarchs. 
Quote from: PDH on April 25, 2009, 05:58:55 PM
"Dysthymia?  Did they get some student from the University of Chicago with a hard-on for ancient Bactrian cities to name this?  I feel cheated."

celedhring


celedhring

Quote from: Queequeg on January 07, 2014, 05:58:10 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on January 07, 2014, 04:09:23 PM
Quote from: Siege on January 07, 2014, 02:05:29 PM
Are they direct descendants from Isabel of Castilla and Fernando of Aragon?

Direct?  No.  They were of the House of Trastamara.  The current Monarchy is the House of Bourbon.
I'd be really surprised if the House of Bourbon had less than four marriages in to Hapsburgs who were direct descendants of the Catholic Monarchs.

Louis XIV married one, for starters. And there are others; they didn't have a myriad of royal infantes and infantas for nothing. Wedlock diplomacy with your neighbors was the sign of the times.

Queequeg

Wasn't the entire War of the Spanish Succession a result of marriage ties between the Hapsburgs (read Haspburg-Valois Burgundy-Trastamara) and the Bourbons because Charles II was an inbred monstrosity?  The Bourbons also had roots in Navarre.
Quote from: PDH on April 25, 2009, 05:58:55 PM
"Dysthymia?  Did they get some student from the University of Chicago with a hard-on for ancient Bactrian cities to name this?  I feel cheated."

The Larch

Quote from: Queequeg on January 07, 2014, 07:27:24 PM
Wasn't the entire War of the Spanish Succession a result of marriage ties between the Hapsburgs (read Haspburg-Valois Burgundy-Trastamara) and the Bourbons because Charles II was an inbred monstrosity?

Yup, Louis XIV's first wife was Carlos II's aunt, María Teresa, so when Carlos died he theoretically should have been succeeded by Louis XIV and María Teresa's son, Louis, the Grand Dauphin, but he was passed over because he could potentially inherit France afterwards and the whole balance of power would go bonkers just by the chance of it happening. Because of this, both Louis and his older son were overlooked and Carlos' will stated that he should be succeeded by Phillippe (eventually Felipe V), the Dauphin's second son and Carlos' nephew-grandson.

jimmy olsen

It's a shame Britain was never a contestant in one of those wars of succession, someone go back in time and whack Geroge the II please.
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Razgovory

I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

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Ed Anger

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Razgovory

If you are going to take a drink every time Tim says something stupid you'll be shitfaced within an hour.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Iormlund

Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 07, 2014, 10:04:26 PM
It's a shame Britain was never a contestant in one of those wars of succession, someone go back in time and whack Geroge the II please.

Huh?

How do you think Britain got Gibraltar?

fhdz

and the horse you rode in on

jimmy olsen

Quote from: Iormlund on January 07, 2014, 11:36:34 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 07, 2014, 10:04:26 PM
It's a shame Britain was never a contestant in one of those wars of succession, someone go back in time and whack Geroge the II please.

Huh?

How do you think Britain got Gibraltar?
Britain fought in the war, but the British monarch wasn't a candidate for the Spanish throne.
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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