Spain's Princess Cristina charged with tax fraud, money-laundering

[Admiral Yi]

What kind of name is Undangarin?

[Maximus]

I would have said it sounded turkish, but it's apparently basque if wiki is to be believed.

[Queequeg]

I think I saw a King of Navarre named Inaki in CK2 as the Duchy of Barcelona once. 

[Queequeg]

Are they direct descendants from Isabel of Castilla and Fernando of Aragon?

Direct?  No.  They were of the House of Trastamara.  The current Monarchy is the House of Bourbon.

I'd be really surprised if the House of Bourbon had less than four marriages in to Hapsburgs who were direct descendants of the Catholic Monarchs. 

[celedhring]

Iñaki Urdangarín is as Basque as a name can get.

[celedhring]

Are they direct descendants from Isabel of Castilla and Fernando of Aragon?

Direct?  No.  They were of the House of Trastamara.  The current Monarchy is the House of Bourbon.

I'd be really surprised if the House of Bourbon had less than four marriages in to Hapsburgs who were direct descendants of the Catholic Monarchs.

Louis XIV married one, for starters. And there are others; they didn't have a myriad of royal infantes and infantas for nothing. Wedlock diplomacy with your neighbors was the sign of the times.

[Queequeg]

Wasn't the entire War of the Spanish Succession a result of marriage ties between the Hapsburgs (read Haspburg-Valois Burgundy-Trastamara) and the Bourbons because Charles II was an inbred monstrosity?  The Bourbons also had roots in Navarre.

[The Larch]

Wasn't the entire War of the Spanish Succession a result of marriage ties between the Hapsburgs (read Haspburg-Valois Burgundy-Trastamara) and the Bourbons because Charles II was an inbred monstrosity?

Yup, Louis XIV's first wife was Carlos II's aunt, María Teresa, so when Carlos died he theoretically should have been succeeded by Louis XIV and María Teresa's son, Louis, the Grand Dauphin, but he was passed over because he could potentially inherit France afterwards and the whole balance of power would go bonkers just by the chance of it happening. Because of this, both Louis and his older son were overlooked and Carlos' will stated that he should be succeeded by Phillippe (eventually Felipe V), the Dauphin's second son and Carlos' nephew-grandson.

[jimmy olsen]

It's a shame Britain was never a contestant in one of those wars of succession, someone go back in time and whack Geroge the II please.

[Razgovory]

Why?

[Ed Anger]

*takes a drink*

[Razgovory]

If you are going to take a drink every time Tim says something stupid you'll be shitfaced within an hour.

[Iormlund]

It's a shame Britain was never a contestant in one of those wars of succession, someone go back in time and whack Geroge the II please.

Huh?

How do you think Britain got Gibraltar?

[fhdz]

What kind of name is Undangarin?

Tolkien.

[jimmy olsen]

It's a shame Britain was never a contestant in one of those wars of succession, someone go back in time and whack Geroge the II please.

Huh?

How do you think Britain got Gibraltar?

Britain fought in the war, but the British monarch wasn't a candidate for the Spanish throne.