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Islamists capture Fallujah

Started by Syt, January 05, 2014, 12:31:17 AM

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garbon

Quote from: fhdz on January 05, 2014, 12:46:40 PM
Aren't we glad we went to Iraq? Things are a lot better since we cleaned house over there!

Well yes. Languish would be dead if it weren't for that war. And given its ailing state, would be good to have another. Raise morale and what not.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Phillip V

On Saturday, according to police officials in Anbar, militants took control of Karma, a town between Falluja and Ramadi, after several hours of clashes.

Police officials and witnesses in Anbar reported that militants had in several cases ambushed convoys of troops and seized heavy weapons. On Friday night, gunmen ambushed an army patrol just north of Falluja, killing four soldiers and making off with eight Humvees, according to a police official.

A heavy firefight also erupted on the main highway linking Baghdad and Anbar, with fighters taking three tanks and other military vehicles, according to police officials.

The fighters, though, apparently did not know how to use the tanks, and put out a call over a mosque's loudspeaker: "If anyone knows how to drive a tank, please come to the mosque."

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/05/world/middleeast/shelling-in-iraqi-city-held-by-qaeda-linked-militants-kills-at-least-8.html

The Brain

Women want me. Men want to be with me.

fhdz

Quote from: garbon on January 05, 2014, 01:18:52 PM
Quote from: fhdz on January 05, 2014, 12:46:40 PM
Aren't we glad we went to Iraq? Things are a lot better since we cleaned house over there!

Well yes. Languish would be dead if it weren't for that war. And given its ailing state, would be good to have another. Raise morale and what not.

All things die. Languish, too, shall pass.
and the horse you rode in on

Viking

Quote from: fhdz on January 05, 2014, 03:33:43 PM
Quote from: garbon on January 05, 2014, 01:18:52 PM
Quote from: fhdz on January 05, 2014, 12:46:40 PM
Aren't we glad we went to Iraq? Things are a lot better since we cleaned house over there!

Well yes. Languish would be dead if it weren't for that war. And given its ailing state, would be good to have another. Raise morale and what not.

All things die. Languish, too, shall pass.

Cattle die, kindred die,
Every man is mortal:
But the good name never dies
Of one who has done well

Cattle die, kindred die,
Every man is mortal:
But I know one thing that never dies,
The glory of the great dead
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

garbon

Quote from: fhdz on January 05, 2014, 03:33:43 PM
Quote from: garbon on January 05, 2014, 01:18:52 PM
Quote from: fhdz on January 05, 2014, 12:46:40 PM
Aren't we glad we went to Iraq? Things are a lot better since we cleaned house over there!

Well yes. Languish would be dead if it weren't for that war. And given its ailing state, would be good to have another. Raise morale and what not.

All things die. Languish, too, shall pass.

We don't need to hurry the old girl along.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

alfred russel

Quote from: fhdz on January 05, 2014, 12:46:40 PM
Aren't we glad we went to Iraq? Things are a lot better since we cleaned house over there!

When Bill Clinton left office, Saddam Hussein was in charge of Fallujah. When W left office, it was an American puppet regime. Obama is in office, and now it is Al Qaeda.
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

There's a fine line between salvation and drinking poison in the jungle.

I'm embarrassed. I've been making the mistake of associating with you. It won't happen again. :)
-garbon, February 23, 2014

The Brain

Women want me. Men want to be with me.

fhdz

Quote from: alfred russel on January 05, 2014, 05:14:44 PM
Quote from: fhdz on January 05, 2014, 12:46:40 PM
Aren't we glad we went to Iraq? Things are a lot better since we cleaned house over there!

When Bill Clinton left office, Saddam Hussein was in charge of Fallujah. When W left office, it was an American puppet regime. Obama is in office, and now it is Al Qaeda.

Well I hope it's aliens next; at least we have X-COM for that.
and the horse you rode in on

DGuller

I had no idea that Iraqi government had a such a tenuous grasp on the country.  :huh: Then again, I had no idea about anything going on there, it's like the place ceased to exist in the media once we pulled out.  I just kind of assumed it was limping along as one of the many pseudo-democracies in the region.

Viking

Quote from: DGuller on January 05, 2014, 06:09:41 PM
I had no idea that Iraqi government had a such a tenuous grasp on the country.  :huh: Then again, I had no idea about anything going on there, it's like the place ceased to exist in the media once we pulled out.  I just kind of assumed it was limping along as one of the many pseudo-democracies in the region.

Actually the violence and mass murder continued apace, just when the US pulled out it was no longer possible to blame everything on them and it became arabs murdering arabs nobody cared.
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

Admiral Yi

Car bombs are one thing, armed occupation is quite another.

Siege

Quote from: The Brain on January 05, 2014, 05:21:18 PM
Obama won't leave office.

He will after he gets impeached by the Tea Party's controlled Senate and House.


"All men are created equal, then some become infantry."

"Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't."

"Laissez faire et laissez passer, le monde va de lui même!"


Razgovory

Quote from: Siege on January 05, 2014, 07:46:40 PM
Quote from: The Brain on January 05, 2014, 05:21:18 PM
Obama won't leave office.

He will after he gets impeached by the Tea Party's controlled Senate and House.

Oh, please, oh please, oh please!  Do try that.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

KRonn

After all the effort the US and allies put into Iraq and it's coming to this mess. The US did not handle leaving well at all, too much politics to make sure to leave at nearly any cost. I don't want the US to go back in, but after all the lives, injuries and money put in there had to be a much better plan for leaving Iraq and in better condition. Push and bargain harder for a Status of Forces Agreement, as is done everywhere the US has troops. Iraq certainly needed the US, and had to know it!

Sec State Kerry now says it's Iraq's issue, that the US and the world told them that it was all up to them or some such blather, but come on, that smacks of trying to deflect from the mistake of how the US/allies left and it makes US leaders look foolish and impotent. To top it all off Iran has gained huge influence there.