California grants law license to "illegal" immigrant

Started by garbon, January 02, 2014, 02:14:13 PM

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Quote from: Caliga on January 02, 2014, 02:51:28 PM
Quote from: garbon on January 02, 2014, 02:49:21 PM
I believe California allows illegal immigrants to graduate from state universities.
:wacko: If it was any other state, I wouldn't believe you. :sleep:

http://www.nilc.org/basic-facts-instate.html
QuoteFifteen states have laws permitting certain undocumented students who have attended and graduated from their primary and secondary schools to pay the same tuition as their classmates at public institutions of higher education. The states are California, Colorado, Connecticut, Illinois, Kansas, Maryland, Minnesota, Nebraska, New Mexico, New York, Oklahoma, Oregon, Texas, Utah, and Washington. In addition, Rhode Island's Board of Governors for Higher Education voted unanimously to provide access to in-state tuition at the state's public colleges and universities to certain students, regardless of their immigration status. This year, the University of Hawaii's Board of Regents adopted a similar policy.
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sbr

@garbon - I don't think making driving a privilege for legals is always worth the hassle.

Also what is an illegal with a law license goona do if he can't legally be hired or open his own business?

Caliga

Quote from: garbon on January 02, 2014, 02:53:09 PM
http://www.nilc.org/basic-facts-instate.html
QuoteFifteen states have laws permitting certain undocumented students who have attended and graduated from their primary and secondary schools to pay the same tuition as their classmates at public institutions of higher education. The states are California, Colorado, Connecticut, Illinois, Kansas, Maryland, Minnesota, Nebraska, New Mexico, New York, Oklahoma, Oregon, Texas, Utah, and Washington. In addition, Rhode Island's Board of Governors for Higher Education voted unanimously to provide access to in-state tuition at the state's public colleges and universities to certain students, regardless of their immigration status. This year, the University of Hawaii's Board of Regents adopted a similar policy.
Interesting. :hmm:
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garbon

Quote from: sbr on January 02, 2014, 02:55:08 PM
@garbon - I don't think making driving a privilege for legals is always worth the hassle.

Is it much of a hassle to prove citizenship? Or are you talking about the hassle of having illegal immigrants driving without being licensed?
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sbr

In this day I don't think it would be very hard to get fake/forged documents and I  don't think the local yahoo employee at the dmv should be the ones making those decisions. I guess it is important that I also don't think drivers license should be the main form of id; I would prefer a state issued id that proves citizenship issued by someone better equipped to make those decisions and a driver's license nothing more than a license to operate a vehicle.

Barrister

Quote from: sbr on January 02, 2014, 03:10:36 PM
In this day I don't think it would be very hard to get fake/forged documents and I  don't think the local yahoo employee at the dmv should be the ones making those decisions. I guess it is important that I also don't think drivers license should be the main form of id; I would prefer a state issued id that proves citizenship issued by someone better equipped to make those decisions and a driver's license nothing more than a license to operate a vehicle.

I dunno - in this day and age official documents are getting harder and harder to forge.
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Quote from: Caliga on January 02, 2014, 02:39:30 PM
I would have assumed that the law school would have asked the same question on their app, BB, and further that if he had answered truthfully there he probably would not have been admitted. :hmm:

:lmfao:
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Americans who cannot drive (say for medical reasons) cannot get ID? :yeahright:
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garbon

Quote from: sbr on January 02, 2014, 03:10:36 PM
In this day I don't think it would be very hard to get fake/forged documents and I  don't think the local yahoo employee at the dmv should be the ones making those decisions. I guess it is important that I also don't think drivers license should be the main form of id; I would prefer a state issued id that proves citizenship issued by someone better equipped to make those decisions and a driver's license nothing more than a license to operate a vehicle.

Same as what BB said. As to the other bit - well that's quite a different world from the one that we live in, given that state issued IDs follow the same process as driver's licenses. :P
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Quote from: The Brain on January 02, 2014, 03:43:59 PM
Americans who cannot drive (say for medical reasons) cannot get ID? :yeahright:

No, but the DMV does issue the State ID cards that substitute.
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garbon

Quote from: The Brain on January 02, 2014, 03:43:59 PM
Americans who cannot drive (say for medical reasons) cannot get ID? :yeahright:

They can. They go to the dmv and follow same process as getting a license (minus written/onroad driving test).
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Caliga

Quote from: The Brain on January 02, 2014, 03:43:59 PM
Americans who cannot drive (say for medical reasons) cannot get ID? :yeahright:
If you cannot drive, you are an untermensch. :)
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Quote from: garbon on January 02, 2014, 03:45:45 PM
Quote from: The Brain on January 02, 2014, 03:43:59 PM
Americans who cannot drive (say for medical reasons) cannot get ID? :yeahright:

They can. They go to the dmv and follow same process as getting a license (minus written/onroad driving test).

Can't they be made to do the tests anyway for cheap laughs?
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