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Started by Razgovory, December 30, 2013, 10:37:20 PM

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Siege

Quote from: sbr on December 31, 2013, 12:41:55 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on December 31, 2013, 12:37:25 PM
I agree with Jacob. I'd add that I think much the same goes for Iran if there were a democratic revolution.

Does Iran have many territorial claims?


Against Bahrain, United Arab emirates, and Oman.


"All men are created equal, then some become infantry."

"Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't."

"Laissez faire et laissez passer, le monde va de lui même!"


Siege



"All men are created equal, then some become infantry."

"Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't."

"Laissez faire et laissez passer, le monde va de lui même!"


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Eddie Teach

They should go back to calling it the Kingdom of the Parthians.
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Josquius

I can't help but notice Bahrain, the UAE and Oman are missing there :lol:
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Admiral Yi

Quote from: Tyr on December 31, 2013, 08:51:09 PM
I can't help but notice Bahrain, the UAE and Oman are missing there :lol:

:unsure:

Eddie Teach

Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 31, 2013, 09:08:38 PM
Quote from: Tyr on December 31, 2013, 08:51:09 PM
I can't help but notice Bahrain, the UAE and Oman are missing there :lol:

:unsure:

You expect Siege to read the maps he posts?
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Grinning_Colossus

He posted a (correct) fact about modern Iran having territorial disputes with Gulf states (over islands and the associated seafloor rights). He then posted an entirely unrelated map overlaying one of the old Persian empires on modern borders, on which said islands would be too small to appear.
Quis futuit ipsos fututores?

Savonarola

Quote from: Grinning_Colossus on January 01, 2014, 04:54:27 AM
He posted a (correct) fact about modern Iran having territorial disputes with Gulf states (over islands and the associated seafloor rights). He then posted an entirely unrelated map overlaying one of the old Persian empires on modern borders, on which said islands would be too small to appear.

But Baharain, UAE and Qatar are on the map Siege posted.
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Grinning_Colossus

Iran's territorial disputes aren't over those countries' mainlands, only islands in the Gulf.
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Jacob

Quote from: Savonarola on January 02, 2014, 02:22:42 PM
Quote from: Grinning_Colossus on January 01, 2014, 04:54:27 AM
He posted a (correct) fact about modern Iran having territorial disputes with Gulf states (over islands and the associated seafloor rights). He then posted an entirely unrelated map overlaying one of the old Persian empires on modern borders, on which said islands would be too small to appear.

But Baharain, UAE and Qatar are on the map Siege posted.

But the map does not illustrate any alleged territorial conflicts between Iran and those countries, thus failing to support his claim.

Savonarola

Quote from: Jacob on January 02, 2014, 02:29:31 PM

But the map does not illustrate any alleged territorial conflicts between Iran and those countries, thus failing to support his claim.

Ah, okay, I misunderstood Josq's post.
In Italy, for thirty years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love, they had five hundred years of democracy and peace—and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock

Razgovory

Anyway, I'm not sure if pushing territorial claims precludes the US from being friendly, after all the ROC has pushed some of those claims and is a US ally.  India has pushed some it's claims and today enjoys a warm relationship with the US.  The US has a tendency toward trying to maintain good relationship with as many powers as possible, often for the sake of having good relations.
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Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Siege

Weakk attentpmt to bring the thread back on tropic, Raz.



"All men are created equal, then some become infantry."

"Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't."

"Laissez faire et laissez passer, le monde va de lui même!"